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Old 02-15-2024, 10:21 AM
 
Location: ottawa, ontario, canada
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I sometimes feel these articles are released just prior to statements saying that the organization needs more funding.
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Old 02-15-2024, 10:33 AM
 
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I sometimes feel these articles are released just prior to statements saying that the organization needs more funding.
Posting that was natnascis attempt to take away from the discussion. If we are being honest the only violence we have seen around this issues has been from natnascis side.

Man dressed as woman attacks peaceful prortestor in Vancouver.




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Vancouver Rape Relief targeted with vandalism, threats over transgender controversy
Dead rat nailed to door more than once in recent months

Vancouver Rape Relief and Women’s Shelter says that threats and vandalism against the organization have ramped up since Vancouver city council’s decision earlier this year to claw back funding based on the organization’s policies excluding transgender women from accessing some of its services.

Tuesday morning (Aug. 27) staff and volunteers arrived to find threats — “Kill TERFS, Trans Power,” “TERFS go home. You are not welcome,” “F*** TERFS” and “Trans women are women” — scrawled across the windows of the group’s Commercial Drive storefront space that is used for support and training groups.

(TERFS stands for Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist).

A few days earlier, a dead rat was nailed to the door. It wasn’t the first one. Spokesperson Hilla Kerner told the Courier that more “dead roadkill” was found nailed to the door recently, and a few months ago someone shoved a dead animal into the mail slo
https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/c...oversy-3106045
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Old 02-15-2024, 10:37 AM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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It’s clear that the radical woke ideology has found its way to the bastion of far leftists that is *checks notes* CSIS our national security organization. Couldn’t be a real threat to people’s safety, no way. (Sarcasm)
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Old 02-15-2024, 10:51 AM
 
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And that has zero to do with the choices families make and the long term outcomes of puberty blockers.
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Old 02-15-2024, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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It’s clear that the radical woke ideology has found its way to the bastion of far leftists that is *checks notes* CSIS our national security organization. Couldn’t be a real threat to people’s safety, no way. (Sarcasm)
As I said before, it's all a spillover from what is happening in the US. The right in the US has nothing to offer except distraction. What better way than the old scapegoat route. Go after drag queens, and gays, and trans etc. Divert attention from what their failings, to make an issue where none really existed before.

How many here know, or have been affected by trans people? How many here ever gave a thought about them, until his overblown political manipulation started?

So much fake outrage at what?
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Old 02-15-2024, 12:12 PM
 
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As I said before, it's all a spillover from what is happening in the US. The right in the US has nothing to offer except distraction. What better way than the old scapegoat route. Go after drag queens, and gays, and trans etc. Divert attention from what their failings, to make an issue where none really existed before.

How many here know, or have been affected by trans people? How many here ever gave a thought about them, until his overblown political manipulation started?

So much fake outrage at what?
This is a dishonest take on the issue. It is not spill over from the US. This is all a reaction to what is happening right here in Canada. Much of the gender ideology Natnascis supports is coming from the US. Stop being a hypocrite.

This was never an issue until the trans activist and their supporters made it an issue. Ten years ago it was not considered hateful to say biological sex is real or that their are two genders. Now you can lose your job for saying this. Before no one was promoting giving children puberty blockers, now people are and if you question it you are some how hateful or against science. This is insanity when the science on this isn't even clear. To say people that question these things are only doing so because of the American right is dishonest. Many of these people don't even have kids of their own.
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Old 02-15-2024, 12:13 PM
 
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Go after drag queens, and gays, and trans etc.
"We're here, we're *****, we're coming for your children"


Nice: C-D bans ***** even thought the pillar of MSM puts it on the cover.
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Old 02-15-2024, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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This is a dishonest take on the issue. It is not spill over from the US. This is all a reaction to what is happening right here in Canada. Much of the gender ideology Natnascis supports is coming from the US.

This was never an issue until the trans activist and their supporters made it an issue. Ten years ago it was not considered hateful to say biological sex is real or that their are two genders. Now you can lose your job for saying this. Before no one was promoting giving children puberty blockers, now people are and if you question it you are some how hateful or against science. This is insanity when the science on this isn't even clear. To say people that question these things are only doing so because of the American right is dishonest. Many of these people don't even have kids of their onwn.
I share this assessment.

It's been an open bar in terms of demands for a couple of years now and seemingly nothing is too outrageous. If you even dare ask a question you get shouted told and accused of wanting to murder trans kids.

I don't condone extremists of course, but sometimes it's true that you reap what you sow.

It's quite ironic and sad that this comes on the heels of the tremendously successful gay rights movement across most of the western world in the early 20th century. Sure there was resistance but overall things progressed quite smoothly and the gay community was brilliant in convincing the average person had absolutely nothing to fear and nothing to lose by supporting their full equality. What sensible person could say no to that?

Whatever the reason, the trans activist community after making some progress is now failing miserably on this front and probably faces a rather ugly backlash at some point in the future. And yes, I know a decent chunk of the gay community leadership is backing the trans activist side, even though that unwavering support is now starting to splinter a bit.
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Old 02-15-2024, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Fact. Some Canadian Conservative politicians are influenced by right wing conservative in the US. Look at the Alberta Premier inviting Tucker Carlson. That's just the latest. It goes all the way back to Harper.

"Is Stephen Harper 'Americanising' Canada?"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34321263

"Opinion: Are Conservatives becoming Canada's Trump Republicans?"

https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/...mp-republicans

It has been brewing for years. This is from 2022

"How the American anti-LGBTQ hate machine is posing a threat to Canadians"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates...tion-1.6663528

We saw it coming, and now CSIS sees it too.

"Transphobia is gaining ground in the U.S. Gender-diverse people in Canada worry it could happen here"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canad...hate-1.6503087

...and they were right, it's here.

Propaganda and being manipulated isn't something people want to admit to.

So many are being PLAYED and it is amazing they don't see it.
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Old 02-15-2024, 01:16 PM
 
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Notice Natnasci has NOT addressed ANY of the issues around the unknowns of puberty blockers or parental concerns. He is trying to make this 100% a political issue and then has the nerve to say that is only political from one side.

Are we really going to pretend his side of the politcal isle side here has not been influenced by the AMerican woke left? Pretty much ALL their talking points come from the American left. Any reasonable person can see this. For the record I have been a NDP supporter my whole life.
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