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Old 02-13-2024, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Sounds like a question on a bar exam!

I had read, in my very unprofessional capacity, that in Section 1, Charter Rights can be limited by law.

So I was wondering if the Feds wanted to change the law to limit the freedom of movement bit, for new immigrants for a specific period of time, if that would be the way to go? Or would that change not be allowed, since it affects only one group, and the Charter is for all???
One important question related to this whether all Charter rights apply to Canadian citizens only or to anyone who happens to find themselves on Canadian territory (either temporarily or permanently as a permanent resident for example) but is not a citizen.
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Old 02-13-2024, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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One important question related to this whether all Charter rights apply to Canadian citizens only or to anyone who happens to find themselves on Canadian territory (either temporarily or permanently as a permanent resident for example) but is not a citizen.
PR was addressed in my post #38.

"Every citizen of Canada and every person who has the status of a permanent resident of Canada has the right:

(a) to move to and take up residence in any province; and
(b) to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province.

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sj...any%20province."
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Old 02-13-2024, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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One important question related to this whether all Charter rights apply to Canadian citizens only or to anyone who happens to find themselves on Canadian territory (either temporarily or permanently as a permanent resident for example) but is not a citizen.
This is where you really need to read the Charter closely. A lot of clauses begin with either, "Everyone has the right to ..." or "Canadian citizens have the right to ...." So everyone currently in Canada, citizens, permanent residents, tourists, etc. has the right to, say, equality before the law. But only citizens can vote for Parliament or provincial legislatures, or stand for office in those bodies.
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Old 02-14-2024, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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OK based on what you guys are saying, fresh off the boat immigrants do not necessarily enjoy Charter rights to unlimited mobility in Canada. Until they obtain permanent residency status. Of course, it could be somewhat difficult to enforce a requirement that they live in the Peace River region for 3-5 years.
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Old 02-14-2024, 12:32 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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It’s of course much easier to restore the federal funding for housing that existed prior to the 1980s, than it would be to revise the charter. I think a special visa could be provided maybe with “no, no, no, yes, no “ type check ins like is done with EI.

Still, guys, I think many of us in this country are missing the elephant in the room that we have a pretty straightforward solution to our housing woes that was done in the relatively recent past.
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Old 02-14-2024, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Canada
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February survey of 31 Canadian cities - table showing average rental costs for one and two bedroom apartments:

https://rentals.ca/national-rent-report
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Old 02-14-2024, 04:12 PM
 
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February survey of 31 Canadian cities - table showing average rental costs for one and two bedroom apartments:

https://rentals.ca/national-rent-report
No wonder Vancouver has so many homeless people and people giving up on life and doing drugs.
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Old 02-14-2024, 04:29 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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February survey of 31 Canadian cities - table showing average rental costs for one and two bedroom apartments:

https://rentals.ca/national-rent-report
Did not expect Montreal to be so high. Holy smokes. I thought Quebec has vacancy control (caps on rent hikes between tenants). Maybe I was wrong about that. Or maybe they got rid of that. These rents are like 80-90% of a lot of people’s monthly income.
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Old 02-14-2024, 05:16 PM
 
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Did not expect Montreal to be so high. Holy smokes. I thought Quebec has vacancy control (caps on rent hikes between tenants). Maybe I was wrong about that. Or maybe they got rid of that. These rents are like 80-90% of a lot of people’s monthly income.
What???

Montreal is not nearly as bad as other places. And this with Montreal arguably being the best city in the country. Quebec city is even lower.
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Old 02-14-2024, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Canada
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No wonder Vancouver has so many homeless people and people giving up on life and doing drugs.
Don't be blinded to what should be obvious. In Vancouver the many homeless aren't all homeless because of higher cost of housing. It's because it's the west coast.

The reason why Vancouver has so many homeless people is because 80+% of them are NOT British Columbians. They were already homeless Canadian people from other provinces in Canada who have migrated to live homeless in Vancouver in spite of the higher prices.

Why do they migrate? So they can more easily live homeless outdoors in tents, driftless and indulging in drugs compliments of only 3 months per year of very mild winter climate and 9 months of comfortably warm to hotter than hell climate. They aren't giving up on life, they want to live homeless longer in a more amenable climate.

If Vancouver had an annual climate typical of the rest of Canada there wouldn't be nearly as many homeless Canadians choosing to leave their home provinces to migrate to the west coast. They'd stay home and make do living homeless with what they have in their own provinces.

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