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Old 03-05-2024, 06:21 AM
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from the today's Spectator:

This legislation authorises house arrest and electronic tagging for a person considered likely to commit a future crime. It’s right there in the text: if a judge believes there are reasonable grounds to ‘fear’ a future hate crime, the as of yet innocent party can be sentenced to house arrest, complete with electronic tagging, mandatory drug testing and communication bans. Failure to cooperate nets you an additional year in jail.

What is a hate crime? According to the Bill, it is a communication expressing ‘detestation or vilification.’ But, clarified the government, this is not the same as ‘disdain or dislike,’ or speech that ‘discredits, humiliates, hurts or offends.’

Unfortunately, the government didn’t think to include a graduated scheme setting out the relative acceptability of the words ‘offend,’ ‘hurt,’ ‘humiliate,’ ‘discredit,’ ‘dislike,’ ‘disdain,’ ‘detest,’ and ‘vilify.’ Under Bill C-63, you can be put away for life for a ‘crime’ whose legal existence hangs on the distinction between ‘dislike’ and ‘detest.’

Despite this Trudeau claims to stand against authoritarianism.

The legislation appears to apply retroactively, meaning you can be hauled up before the Human Rights Tribunal for any material you’ve left online, regardless of its posting date. Anonymous accusations and secret testimony are permitted (at the tribunal’s discretion). Complaints are free to file, and an accuser, if successful, can hope to reap up to a $20,000 payout, with up to another $50,000 going to the government.

All the social media companies are going be supervised by a brand-new government body called the Digital Safety Commission. The Digital Safety Commission can, without oversight, require companies to block access to anycontent, conduct investigations, hold secret hearings, require the companies to hand over specific content, and give all data collected to third-party researchers accredited by the Commission. All data. Any content. No oversight.

Does that sound crazy? There’s more.

The ostensible purpose of putting the Commission (and not the ordinary police) in charge is so that it can act informally and quickly (i.e. without a warrant) in situations where material victimising a child could spread quickly across the Internet. What that means in effect is that the Digital Safety Commission is not accountable and does not have to justify its actions. As the Canadian Civil Liberties Association says in its sharply worded critique of the Bill, it endows government appointees with vast authority ‘to interpret the law, make up new rules, enforce them, and then serve as judge, jury and executioner.’

Is it possible, that in the beautiful and once civilized country of Canada, leading politicians seriously want to punish people for crimes they might (but actually haven’t) committed? Canada already has a law that criminalises conspiracy, and another law criminalising threats—so we’re not talking about someone who is planning murder or terrorism. Then who are we talking about? People who read the wrong websites? People who didn’t get vaccinated? People who criticise the government? People who go to church and believe certain types of immorality will send you to hell?

There’s something Trudeau and his minions don’t seem to realise. With the Online Harms Bill, as with the reckless invocation of the Emergencies Act and the debanking of protestors, they are making a mockery of the rule of law and of the public order they are sworn to uphold.

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Old 03-14-2024, 06:04 AM
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All quiet here as if the bill already passed.
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