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Old 05-27-2024, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Old 05-27-2024, 07:14 AM
 
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I was talking about "Franglais" a Quebec peculiarity meaning that it was French mixed with a lot of borrowed English words, You didnt hear English speakers mixing in French words in conversations.

I did not say that North Americans should speak the Queen's English. Accents change about every 60 miles in the UK but unfortunately are slowly becoming extinct thanks to the media becoming a major part of peoples lives
As a Montreal Anglophone, that's actually not the case, we do mix French words and phrases into our everyday conversations in English, in ways that are distinct from other communities of English speakers.
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Old 05-27-2024, 03:29 PM
 
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As a Montreal Anglophone, that's actually not the case, we do mix French words and phrases into our everyday conversations in English, in ways that are distinct from other communities of English speakers.
I don't fully trust Wikipedia but there might be some interesting infos about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_English

That remind me when I was a kid, I saw some old roap maps of Montreal when they referenced A-15 as Laurentian Autoroute instead of Laurentian freeway/expressway.
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Old 05-27-2024, 08:22 PM
 
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Actually, English speakers in Quebec do use French words all the time, like dépanneur, terrasse, subvention, autoroute, formation (instead of training), pochette, garderie, resto, stage (for internship), métro, echo (for ultrasound), etc.

They also use French turns of phrase like "I need to find a parking", "close the lights" or "pass the vacuum".

Note that there is also tons of franglais in European French. It's just that the terms are different from the ones used in Quebec.

Quebecers actually like to make fun of the anglicisms used in France, because they sound very illogical to them.
What sort of anglicisms?
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Old 05-27-2024, 08:29 PM
 
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What sort of anglicisms?
Like "footing" for "jogging".
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Old 05-27-2024, 08:31 PM
 
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Today in the news the head of anglophone Concordia University in Montréal spoke in English about "compressions".

Is there anywhere else in the anglosphere where that term would be used to talk about budget cuts?
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Old 05-27-2024, 09:21 PM
 
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I could be entirely wrong about this but it seems that the Latim term "CV" Curriculum vitae is also more commonly used among French speaking people and also used by Anglos in Quebec. In the rest of Canada people usually just say resume. I have also heard people in Spanish use CV. Seems to me Anglos in Quebec picked this up from French speakers. Never heard anyone in Quebec say resume. I have heard CV used in other places but in a different way or only for specfic professions.
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Old 05-27-2024, 11:29 PM
 
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Actually, English speakers in Quebec do use French words all the time, like dépanneur, terrasse, subvention, autoroute, formation (instead of training), pochette, garderie, resto, stage (for internship), métro, echo (for ultrasound), etc.

They also use French turns of phrase like "I need to find a parking", "close the lights" or "pass the vacuum".

Note that there is also tons of franglais in European French. It's just that the terms are different from the ones used in Quebec.

Quebecers actually like to make fun of the anglicisms used in France, because they sound very illogical to them.
I lived in a small town in France for a year. It was my way of immersing myself in the language I remember they used to refer to "Le Week end" instead of using fin de semaine . I dont remember a lot of anglicisms used on radio or TV unless it was in reference to things like "Les Rolling stones" or "Les Beatles" or "top of the charts" which of course there was no French translation possible.

I just found it strange and somewhat amusing when listening to Quebec French spoken on the buses to and fro from work. Things like listening to two young women discussing their boyfriends, one of whom was very upset and after describing her problem with boyfriend in detail ended up referring to him as a "son of a *****" in English or one memorable headline in the Montreal Star "Cinque blesses dans un hold up a la Banque de Montreal"

There are probably others but it was a long time ago and memory dims unfortunately

I thought I read somewhere a few years after I left Quebec that the Provincial Government had started a program to eliminate as much as possible the usage of borrowed English in the language but I may be wrong on that.

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Old 05-28-2024, 07:13 AM
 
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I could be entirely wrong about this but it seems that the Latim term "CV" Curriculum vitae is also more commonly used among French speaking people and also used by Anglos in Quebec. In the rest of Canada people usually just say resume. I have also heard people in Spanish use CV. Seems to me Anglos in Quebec picked this up from French speakers. Never heard anyone in Quebec say resume. I have heard CV used in other places but in a different way or only for specfic professions.
You're absolutely right. Everyone in Quebec uses "CV" regardless of language spoken. It also seeps into areas bordering Quebec so in Ottawa and the federal government it's more common (in English) to hear people say "CV" as opposed to "resumé".

I think "CV" disappears gradually (giving way to "resumé") as you move further away from the Quebec border in Ontario.
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Old 05-28-2024, 07:20 AM
 
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You're absolutely right. Everyone in Quebec uses "CV" regardless of language spoken. It also seeps into areas bordering Quebec so in Ottawa and the federal government it's more common (in English) to hear people say "CV" as opposed to "resumé".

I think "CV" disappears gradually (giving way to "resumé") as you move further away from the Quebec border in Ontario.
One French term being replaced by another.
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