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Old Yesterday, 01:58 PM
Status: "Token Canuck" (set 1 day ago)
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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We have a major homeless problem here in Victoria because of the mild climate and high cost of living.

https://www.capitaldaily.ca/news/vic...count-movement
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Old Yesterday, 02:32 PM
 
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I’m worried at how this gets fixed.
It can be but it won't be fixed. Canadians are to indenial at how serious the problem is or simply don't care. Canadians are to resistant to bringing in extra help. They are ok with engineersc coming here that end up driving taxis but god forbid we bring in working class people with experience building homes.

Also, Canadians are used to thumbing their nose at americans over public health care that they didn't notice our own health care systems are bascially in shambles. This also contributes the worsening of the drug and homeless problem.
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Old Yesterday, 05:14 PM
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Location: Victoria, BC.
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It can be but it won't be fixed. Canadians are to indenial at how serious the problem is or simply don't care. Canadians are to resistant to bringing in extra help. They are ok with engineersc coming here that end up driving taxis but god forbid we bring in working class people with experience building homes.

Also, Canadians are used to thumbing their nose at americans over public health care that they didn't notice our own health care systems are bascially in shambles. This also contributes the worsening of the drug and homeless problem.
Are you saying that there are no similar problems in the US? You would be wrong if that is the case.

I made a big error on post #38. Actually Between 25,000 and 35,000 people are homeless on any given night in Canada. https://madeinca.ca/homelessness-statistics-canada/



America is facing a housing crisis. The U.S. is short millions of housing units. Half of renters are paying more than a third of their salary in housing costs, and for those looking to buy, scant few homes on the market are affordable for a typical household.
https://www.npr.org/2024/02/17/12298...al%20household.

While it is considered the leader of the world stage, the United States still has one of the biggest problems with homelessness, even when compared to more impoverished countries. https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ess-by-country

Regarding Canada's health care system I think it is just fine other than a few minor problems. Please tell why you think our health care system contributes to the worsening of the drug and homeless problem. That makes no sense.

I am 83 years old and in the past ten years have had a number of serious health problems and have been hospitalized three times. Severe pancreatitis, two heart attacks, had an angioplasty and a pacemaker installed. My out of pocket cost $00. If it were not for our health care I would be either dead or one of the homeless.

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Old Yesterday, 07:02 PM
 
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No I wasn't saying there isn't problems in the US. I am aware how bad things are in some areas of the US but that should be no consolation. My point is we need to stop using the US as a point of reference because compared to other developed western democracies we are not doing so well. That includes things like health care, crime, drugs, housing etc etc. Our system ranks last among G2O countries when it comes to different aspects of health care. Canada has the longest waiting times for ER. There is a shortage of doctors and nurses in many places. In some areas in can take up to a year for families to find a family doctor.

It's interesting it's people over 70 on here defending the way things are right now. They lived through the best times in Canada and can't accept or don't see the way things are going. We literally he had one elderly person on here saying they are glad their city is unfordable to keep certain people out. At least they were honest.


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Canada's health system ranked second last among 11 countries: report
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/canada...port-1.5533045


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'I thought I might die at home': Canada's health-care system is crumbling, experts say
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/i-thou...-say-1.6036628

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Old Yesterday, 10:29 PM
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Location: Victoria, BC.
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No I wasn't saying there isn't problems in the US. I am aware how bad things are in some areas of the US but that should be no consolation. My point is we need to stop using the US as a point of reference because compared to other developed western democracies we are not doing so well. That includes things like health care, crime, drugs, housing etc etc. Our system ranks last among G2O countries when it comes to different aspects of health care. Canada has the longest waiting times for ER. There is a shortage of doctors and nurses in many places. In some areas in can take up to a year for families to find a family doctor.

It's interesting it's people over 70 on here defending the way things are right now. They lived through the best times in Canada and can't accept or don't see the way things are going. We literally he had one elderly person on here saying they are glad their city is unfordable to keep certain people out. At least they were honest.




https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/canada...port-1.5533045


https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/i-thou...-say-1.6036628
Sorry I'm not buying it. Canada's health care systems are run by the provinces and territories. I live in British Columbia which has a highly ranked system.

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British Columbia and Ontario are the top-rated provinces. Not only do they rank highest within Canada, B.C. places 3rd among all the comparator regions and scores an “A” grade on the overall Health report card, while Ontario finishes with a “B” grade and ranks 7th overall.
https://edata.conferenceboard.ca/hcp...al/Health.aspx
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Old Today, 06:22 AM
 
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Urbanization has a price. Housing prices are not just an issue in Toronto and Vancouver; see also NYC, San Francisco, London, Berlin, Moscow, Mexico City, Lagos...
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Old Today, 11:16 AM
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Urbanization has a price. Housing prices are not just an issue in Toronto and Vancouver; see also NYC, San Francisco, London, Berlin, Moscow, Mexico City, Lagos...
Prices are relatively low in the largest city in the world Tokyo though, or in cities like Houston, Texas which despite relative wealth, have not implemented the same zoning and building codes which have plagued residential development in much of the Western world. The third world cities are expensive for different reasons, I’d imagine. Not sure why exactly, maybe corruption related.
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Old Today, 12:40 PM
 
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Prices are relatively low in the largest city in the world Tokyo though, or in cities like Houston, Texas which despite relative wealth, have not implemented the same zoning and building codes which have plagued residential development in much of the Western world. The third world cities are expensive for different reasons, I’d imagine. Not sure why exactly, maybe corruption related.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/asia...ls-2023-10-04/

Megacities in developing countries tend to be expensive in terms of the local purchasing power, not in absolute terms compared to developed countries. Hence the development of slums.

I don't disagree with you - zoning and building codes make some difference. As does buildable area. I was responding to the OP's suggestion that Canadians should live in small towns. The same suggestion could apply to almost any country.
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Old Today, 12:52 PM
 
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Sorry I'm not buying it. Canada's health care systems are run by the provinces and territories. I live in British Columbia which has a highly ranked system.


https://edata.conferenceboard.ca/hcp...al/Health.aspx
I know you don't buy it, It's called denial. Or you simply don't give a **** about the rest of the country. Which is fine.

Do you also deny BC has the worst homeless and drug problem?
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Old Today, 12:54 PM
 
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Urbanization has a price. Housing prices are not just an issue in Toronto and Vancouver; see also NYC, San Francisco, London, Berlin, Moscow, Mexico City, Lagos...
What does Vancouver have to offer compred to NYC, San Francisco etc etc???

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