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Old 02-01-2009, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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USA Pros
1. More patriotic
2. More older and beautiful buildings
3. A varied climate
4. Cheaper food

USA Cons
1. You are looked at unfavorably
2. Health Care
3. The fact you had Bush
4. Crime rate

Canada Pros
1. We have Timmies
2. We have a lot more open space with less croud
3. Looked at more favorably
4. Health care
5. School system

Canada Cons
1. Less Patriotic
2. Less older buildings and landmarks
3. Lenient immigration laws
4. Stephen Harper

 
Old 02-01-2009, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Belinda_Cooperstone View Post
USA Pros
1. More patriotic
2. More older and beautiful buildings
3. A varied climate
4. Cheaper food

USA Cons
1. You are looked at unfavorably
2. Health Care
3. The fact you had Bush
4. Crime rate

Canada Pros
1. We have Timmies
2. We have a lot more open space with less croud
3. Looked at more favorably
4. Health care
5. School system

Canada Cons
1. Less Patriotic
2. Less older buildings and landmarks
3. Lenient immigration laws
4. Stephen Harper
Timmies is low grade coffee at best... It appeals mainly to Canadians on a budget who have permanently destroyed their tastebuds with massive amounts of 18% cream and sugar. Stale donuts and tiny sandwiches as well... Canada doesn't have any truly sacred institutions for the white trash demographic but Timmie's is close...

The health care is great in Canada if you are healthy and poor... If you are in hurry though and haven't maxed out your credit cards the US has MUCH better health care. Doesn't even compare... Canada is similar to the Eastern European public hospital standard but with less doctors.

The K-12 schools in Canada are better than the US though.
 
Old 02-02-2009, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Originally Posted by Belinda_Cooperstone View Post
USA Pros
2. More older and beautiful buildings


Canada Cons
2. Less older buildings and landmarks
Depends on where you live. Eastern Canada (Quebec City, Montreal, Halifax, Ottawa, Kingston, Ont. and I am omitting a whole bunch here) have plenty of beautiful old buildings and landmarks, and compare quite favourably to what you'll find in the States, even in its most historic regions.
 
Old 02-03-2009, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Omaha
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Originally Posted by OhioUberAlles View Post
If they came illegally they would be in the same boat a lot of the Mexicans are in.
You mean "boot"? lol
 
Old 02-06-2009, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
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USA pro's:
- Beautiful landscape and wildlife
- Great opportunities
- Ability to laugh at their troubles (I enjoy watching the Daily Show and the Colbert Report)
- Highly advanced
- Inspiring history

USA con's:
- Too proud
- Too much sensation and hype (OMG! The sky is falling!)
- Too extreme differences in views (especially politically)
- Hostile, bully-ish attitude
- Sick culture (too focused on superficiality)
- News presentation mainly focused around USA
- Too much greed
- Education system deteriorating
- Very paranoid
- Too many enemies

Canada pro's:
- Beautiful landscape and wildlife
- Mixture of (best of) Europe and USA
- Healthier, happier atmosphere
- Better functioning government (btw, I think Stephen Harper is doing a relatively great job! I hope there are more Canadians who agree with me)
- Better schools
- Love the Canadian sense of humour!
- More positive, tolerant attitude
- Better, safer environment to bring up children
- More accepting of other cultures
- Better news coverage

Canada con's:
- Too laid-back (tendency to become lazy)
- Need better infrastructure
- Too strict rules for newly immigrated professionals, which obstructs a smooth transition into continuing their careers here.
- Too expensive (goods, housing) compared to USA
- Stands in shadow of USA, when there is no need, as Canada in fact offers a better quality of life than USA, even if USA is more powerful. In the end, what matters more to the average person: the powerful status of a country or the quality of life it offers?

Source: personal experience. Lived in the USA for 15 years. Living in Canada for only 3 years, but already deeply in love with this country. Still have a soft spot for the USA, but bully-ish and superior attitude of some of the citizens is always a big turn off.
 
Old 02-06-2009, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zephora View Post
USA pro's:
- Beautiful landscape and wildlife
- Great opportunities
- Ability to laugh at their troubles (I enjoy watching the Daily Show and the Colbert Report)
- Highly advanced
- Inspiring history

USA con's:
- Too proud
- Too much sensation and hype (OMG! The sky is falling!)
- Too extreme differences in views (especially politically)
- Hostile, bully-ish attitude
- Sick culture (too focused on superficiality)
- News presentation mainly focused around USA
- Too much greed
- Education system deteriorating
- Very paranoid
- Too many enemies

Canada pro's:
- Beautiful landscape and wildlife
- Mixture of (best of) Europe and USA
- Healthier, happier atmosphere
- Better functioning government (btw, I think Stephen Harper is doing a relatively great job! I hope there are more Canadians who agree with me)
- Better schools
- Love the Canadian sense of humour!
- More positive, tolerant attitude
- Better, safer environment to bring up children
- More accepting of other cultures
- Better news coverage

Canada con's:
- Too laid-back (tendency to become lazy)
- Need better infrastructure
- Too strict rules for newly immigrated professionals, which obstructs a smooth transition into continuing their careers here.
- Too expensive (goods, housing) compared to USA
- Stands in shadow of USA, when there is no need, as Canada in fact offers a better quality of life than USA, even if USA is more powerful. In the end, what matters more to the average person: the powerful status of a country or the quality of life it offers?

Source: personal experience. Lived in the USA for 15 years. Living in Canada for only 3 years, but already deeply in love with this country. Still have a soft spot for the USA, but bully-ish and superior attitude of some of the citizens is always a big turn off.
I would say both nations are good at laughing at our own troubles. Its one of the major things that are different between North American and European/Asian culture in my opinion..

Canada I would agree is better for children and families while the US is better for ambitious people. That said, the cost of living in Canada is absolutely out of line for the kind of country it is. Canada has an insular nature similar to what Canadians believe Americans have, even though they won't admit it. This causes people to think that paying 30% more for the same vehicle for instance is normal. Housing costs in Canada are also out of line with what is going on in the economy.

The work ethic thing in Canada is regional. In Toronto and Southern Ontario you will see a similar work ethic to what you would have in the Midwest US. Western Canada though is uncompetitive though. Luckily (or maybe because) Western Canada's economy is natural resource based and those service and extraction jobs can't be outsourced.

In regards to news coverage, Canada wins hands down. For a nation like the US I am amazed Americans put up with the inferior news media. The UK beats both hands down though.
 
Old 02-06-2009, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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In regards to news coverage, Canada wins hands down. For a nation like the US I am amazed Americans put up with the inferior news media. The UK beats both hands down though.
I presume you and the other poster mean international news here. On this I would agree.

But local news in Canada is pretty brutal, and many decent-sized cities (150,000 to 200,000) that are not really close to a huge metropolis (so you can't blame that) have almost no local news at all.

National news in the U.S. is also better I'd say. There are some radio stations in some parts of Canada where when the news does come on, it's actually U.S. news from some American syndication outfit!
 
Old 02-06-2009, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Acajack View Post
I presume you and the other poster mean international news here. On this I would agree.

But local news in Canada is pretty brutal, and many decent-sized cities (150,000 to 200,000) that are not really close to a huge metropolis (so you can't blame that) have almost no local news at all.

National news in the U.S. is also better I'd say. There are some radio stations in some parts of Canada where when the news does come on, it's actually U.S. news from some American syndication outfit!
Yes, I meant international news. I do agree, local TV news in Canada is worse than comparable US TV stations. Maybe the reason is because newspapers in the US (outside NY Times) are generally of lower quality than comparable Canadian cities.
 
Old 04-03-2009, 11:32 PM
 
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I do love my country and don't ever want to move (well maybe Florida for half the year), but here are somethings I hate about Canada:

BLEEDING-HEART LIBERALS: they are everywhere in most of Canada except Manitoba, Sask. & Alberta and they are politically correct to the point of nauseum! If you have any Conservative thoughts you are automatically demonized. And no, most Conservatives in Canada are not anything like your extreme right-wing Republican nut jobs in the states. Most of us do believe in health care and socialism (paying taxes for good publice services), but there are some limits! The BHL are almost trying to prove that they are anti-Republican American that they go beyond common sense.

GUN CONTROL AND THE RIGHT TO SELF DEFENCE: I'm not talking handguns since I don't own one or believe anyone should own one, I'm talking "long-guns", which are also villified. Once again our bleeding heart liberal laws make it impossible for a law abiding citizen to defend themselves in their own home. You have to use "equal force" to defend yourself, so first you have to determine what someone is attacking you with, then use that to protect yourself! The Police tell people to not to fight back against someone breaking into your home, just let them take what they want and leave you unharmed. Why don't we just write a blank cheque for these scum-bags?

I do notice that is some America cities there seems to be a deterant with gun ownership. People seem to be alot more careful when dealing with others (at least in the low crime areas) since you never know who's carrying. For instance you don't see too many cut infront of others when the highway is backed up. I have seen quite a few drunk college kids in Canada trash parked vehicles on a busy street, I believe they would think twice about this in city where people have permits to carry.

OUR RESERVATION PROBLEM: For the poor honest souls who live on the bad Reserves I truely feel sorry, but for the Warlords who deal illegal alcohol, tobbacco and firearms I have no respect. Once again our BHL government keeps these people disfunctional by giving them subsidies and tax-breaks. And some still want more land! Enough that some towns in Ontario have become occupied warzones with citizens being assulted in their own homes. And yet groups like Amnesty International think Canada isn't doing enough for their indigenous peoples....I know a Native who told me he can't ever leave his home over night on the reserve since his place will be looted.

Anyway it is not all bad here, even in the snow of February.
 
Old 04-04-2009, 03:46 AM
 
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why do ever country have to be compare to america.
Hmm.. Perhaps you didn't read the OP? That's just the question here. if the OP had wanted to compare Canada to, say, Bolivia, he/she would have asked that.

Get it?

Anyhow, I've lived in both places, as well as in Paris and Sydney, AU. I've now returned to my native country (America), and can tell you that I prefer it here, though there are some of those issues that have been listed are true. (If I had to leave, I would definitely go back to Australia, never to Canada).

I'd say, if a person could somehow summarize the differences in one way, it's that Americans are far more independent and self-sufficient than Canadians, fiercely so in fact.

I read once that what makes an American soldier so dangerous to his enemies in battle is that he's so durned fiercely independent. If the situation arises, he can and will go forward into battle without any guidance. Not that they take off on their own, but if they do find themselves without a defined leader, why, they'll just wing it, and they do extraordinarily well in such cases. (They also happen to be the best marksmen in the world now, something Canadians used to be able to state).

By comparison, the French, for instance, just give up. The Italians would never have gotten into the war in the first place, and want to go drink wine and make love. The Canadians? They really need or want a superior's input, though they are known to be good well disciplined fellows when well managed.

Which sort of sums it up: Americans are brash, full of high spirits, noisy, but able to take on big challenges all on their own. They have some of the world's richest people because of this trait: (Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Steve Jobs, and on and on) because of their penchant for risk-taking that scares off most Canadians.

Also, this enables them to laugh off most criticisms, or to accept it from outsiders with a smile, an offer to buy you a beer and laugh about America, and then to press on.

Canadians are far more conservative, but to a fault, and are remarkably obedient and confident in their politicians. If their government says it's so, why, it must be so!

In addition, as I've seen it, they are very sensitive to criticism about anything in Canada, even when they know inside that it may be true. They don't have that happy sense of humor and self-deprecation that Americans do.

So, everything in America reflects that brash over-confidence. But I prefer that to the mopey downer attitude I've seen so often in Canada. Don't you?

(I hope any Canadian readers don't take this as criticism and get all huffy or defensive, which would sort of prove my point.)
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