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09-05-2011, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by poscstudent
We need to start experimenting with different forms of private health care.
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Why? most are happy with the system in place..
Youd rather deal with insurance companies that will use every trick in the book to avoid paying when you need it most?
You want provisions like Pre existing conditions,financial Caps,co pays, lose your job=lose your insurance, etc
And on top of that pay $1000+ per month for your family coverage?
What are you paying now per week for your Canadian Health care? $50 a paycheck?
I'm happy just the way it is.. |
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09-05-2011, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jambo101
Why? most are happy with the system in place..
Youd rather deal with insurance companies that will use every trick in the book to avoid paying when you need it most?
You want provisions like Pre existing conditions,financial Caps,co pays, lose your job=lose your insurance, etc
And on top of that pay $1000+ per month for your family coverage?
What are you paying now per week for your Canadian Health care? $50 a paycheck?
I'm happy just the way it is..
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A lot of people are not happy with our health care, it's the number one issue for people.
Why should someone who can afford to pay for x rays or an MRI test etc. not be allowed to pay for it and free up time for others?
Why should Canada lose out on money and jobs to the US because people choose to go their for health care?
France and other European countries with two-tier health care have the best systems in the world. |
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09-05-2011, 09:53 AM
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I agree,if you want to permanently sign off from the Canadian healthcare system with no chance of reinstatement to the program then you should have that option,I doubt there would be many takers for going it alone financially with your healthcare..
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09-05-2011, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jambo101
I agree,if you want to permanently sign off from the Canadian healthcare system with no chance of reinstatement to the program then you should have that option,I doubt there would be many takers for going it alone financially with your healthcare..
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This^^^^^^^  . |
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09-05-2011, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jambo101
I agree,if you want to permanently sign off from the Canadian healthcare system with no chance of reinstatement to the program then you should have that option,I doubt there would be many takers for going it alone financially with your healthcare..
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What's wrong with having private clinics where you can pay to get such things as an x ray done? |
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09-06-2011, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by poscstudent
What's wrong with having private clinics where you can pay to get such things as an x ray done?
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Nothing wrong with private clinics where people can pay cash for their medical procedures however Canada is rather devoid of such places.A short trip across the border into the USA you will find plenty of specialists who will be more than happy to take your money.. |
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09-06-2011, 04:46 AM
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The best system in the world (France) doesn't allow one to opt out of national healthcare.
"The entire population must pay compulsory health insurance. The insurers are non-profit agencies that annually participate in negotiations with the state regarding the overall funding of health care in France. There are three main funds, the largest of which covers 84% of the population and the other two a further 12%. A premium is deducted from all employees' pay automatically. The 2001 Social Security Funding Act, set the rates for health insurance covering the statutory health care plan at 5.25% on earned income, capital and winnings from gambling and at 3.95% on benefits (pensions and allowances)."
So a flat 5.25% on earnings goes to the national health service. On top of that, you have to pay a "deductible" of sorts, $1000 out of pocket, up front, for which you are reimbursed about 75%. I think a lot of Canadians would find that a struggle. Heck, even a $5 user fee to go to emergency in Canada meets with resistance!
And at 50% income tax for a single person and 42% for a family, I would expect that France's healthcare system would be stellar. (They also offer free university.) Canada's rates are 31% and 21% respectively.
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Basically, you don't get anything for free in this world - certainly not healthcare, as France's figures demonstrate. Somewhere in all of this there is a balance between expenditure, taxes and the quality of heathcare offered. Finding it is the challenge! |
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09-06-2011, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Galloway
If i was rich then i would choose American healthcare in a second, if i was poor then i would stick with Canadian healthcare.
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That means that 95% of Americans would prefer the Canadian system... |
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09-06-2011, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jambo101
Nothing wrong with private clinics where people can pay cash for their medical procedures however Canada is rather devoid of such places.A short trip across the border into the USA you will find plenty of specialists who will be more than happy to take your money..
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But you think if someone wants to use that they should permanently sign off from the Canadian healthcare system? |
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