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Old 02-27-2013, 12:30 PM
 
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That may be true but i've never heard most people say they prefer to live in british weather as was the original comparisons being made.

Frankly from what i've heard the number 1 reason the UK has so many expats (mainly in spain and france) is that they'll do anything to escape their weather. Of course with your ridiculously flippant attitude i'm sure you know so much more than anyone else in this "asinine" thread.

In fact why are you even waisting your time on this website? you should be out and about spreading your knowledge and joy to the masses, on with you good sir!
I repped you in the crime thread, but you're way off base here. Anyway, you're free to believe whatever you want.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Regarding British people who apparently like Canada's climate (or at least the climate of southern Ontario)...

I'd say they like certain aspects of it, like the fact that in winter although quite a bit colder, there is at least more sunshine than in the gloomy UK. Not sure they are crazy about the cold but the fact there is more sun is not a bad trade-off for a lot of them.

And Brits in general tend to absolutely LOVE summers in Ontario, which are much warmer and sunnier than summers in the UK. Once again, it's a trade-off.

Anyway, just reporting what I've been told by British people living here.

On the other hand, as a climactic refuge from the UK, Canada pales in comparison to Australia.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:58 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Did Canada (especially pre-independence) have more restrictive immigration laws compared to the US in the past? Did Canada economically on a per capita basis have a weaker economy than the US? I know that much immigration to Canada in the past ended up with people jumping ship southwards to the US but I don't really know the reason why (sure, it's warmer but what other causes were there?).
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Old 02-27-2013, 04:22 PM
 
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I know that much immigration to Canada in the past ended up with people jumping ship southwards to the US but I don't really know the reason why (sure, it's warmer but what other causes were there?).
I have several friends who did exactly that, and let me tell you why. It is all about job and money.

The US has a much large economy and provides much more opportunities in terms of career and city choice. For highly skilled professionals, you make a lot more money in the US, and cost of living is significantly higher.

Canada has the advantage of being safer and having a better safety net. However, these are simply not important to most immigrants, especially mid-to-higher income demographics. If a city has more crimes, they can simply live in a safe neighbourhood; safety net is only a big concern for those who often risk being unemployed or being poor. Highly motivated people don't care about social welfare. Actually they end up paying for that.

Let's face it, Canada will always be a second choice when it comes to where to immigrate when the US is an option, at least for the vast majority of people. Weather and jobs are two paramount limiting factors.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Mille Fin
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I have several friends who did exactly that, and let me tell you why. It is all about job and money.

The US has a much large economy and provides much more opportunities in terms of career and city choice. For highly skilled professionals, you make a lot more money in the US, and cost of living is significantly higher.

Canada has the advantage of being safer and having a better safety net. However, these are simply not important to most immigrants, especially mid-to-higher income demographics. If a city has more crimes, they can simply live in a safe neighbourhood; safety net is only a big concern for those who often risk being unemployed or being poor. Highly motivated people don't care about social welfare. Actually they end up paying for that.

Let's face it, Canada will always be a second choice when it comes to where to immigrate when the US is an option, at least for the vast majority of people. Weather and jobs are two paramount limiting factors.

This sums it up nicely. These are the kinds of points that might ruffle the feathers of some Canadians, but it's the absolute truth. If you are a dynamic individual who is ready to assume risks (most immigrants obviously are) then the U.S. offers the prospect of a richer, fuller life than Canada.

Full disclosure: I'm Canadian.

I might add that most of Canada is virtually uninhabitable, so it's size is a little misleading. In terms of livable space Canada on a map should be viewed as a horizontal version of Chile.

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Old 02-28-2013, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Bremerton, WA
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Lots of land is uninhabitable. Alberta only has Calgary, Edmonton, Fort McMurray and some small towns and cities. Most of the time, Alberta is bare land.
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:57 PM
 
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Lots of land is uninhabitable. Alberta only has Calgary, Edmonton, Fort McMurray and some small towns and cities. Most of the time, Alberta is bare land.


?????? lol Hardly.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:28 AM
 
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Having lived both in the U.S. Northeast and in Southern Ontario I would say the winter is actually worse in places like NYC and Philly because they aren't set up to deal with it. Roads are in worse condition, there's more freezing rain/sleet because temperatures go high enough for that, and there's fewer winter activities available like sledding, ice skating, etc. so cabin fever sets in. Temperatures can dip just as low and the windchill can be horrendous there too. Southern Ontario gets more colder days, and the winter lasts a few weeks longer too, but overall I would say the "misery" is the same or worse in the northeast U.S. winter.
That's funny. Have you really convinced yourself of this nonsense? Boosterism is the lifeblood of this forum, but you've crossed into delusion now.
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Old 01-27-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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On top of all the other factors mentioned, Canada was only around 3 million people when it became a country in 1867, which is also almost 90 years after the US became one. I know there's people before that, but in both cases, when the current countries became what they are now, there's another major reason!
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Old 01-30-2016, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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That's funny. Have you really convinced yourself of this nonsense? Boosterism is the lifeblood of this forum, but you've crossed into delusion now.
I saw nothing in his post that wasn't true.
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