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Old 11-10-2011, 04:01 PM
 
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because the molecule is extremely cheap and can't be patented.

This is from Johns Hopkins University too, not some quack on the internet:

ScienceDirect - Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications : Advanced cancers: eradication in all cases using 3-bromopyruvate therapy to deplete ATP

If you can get to a university library you can see the photos of the remarkable recovery rats that were injected with cancer cells made after treatment with 3-bromopyruvate in the journal article. 19/19 rats studied were all cured and were still living after 1 year. Clinical trials in Europe are now on going and are seeing positive results. There was also word that a chemist in Europe somewhere got cancer, had heard of this paper, and made some crude 3-bromopyruvate in the lab out of desperation. They ended up surviving. 3-bromopyruvate has been known to have extremely interesting anti-cancer properties since 2003, so why haven't we brought it to clinical trials here in the US yet? Absolutely no pharmaceutical companies will touch it and put it into clinical trials because almost no money can be made on the molecule since it can't be patented. What should we do?

 
Old 11-11-2011, 06:51 AM
 
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Clearly 'someone' should fund the trials.

However it would be actively fought by the FDA and CDC, it would be an up-hill battle.
 
Old 11-11-2011, 08:41 AM
 
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With the exception of genetics (and radiation exposure) i think that those of us who've been in the health and fitness lifestyle over the years know that a ''clean'' diet with high antioxidants and exercise will ward off most cancers even up to a very old age.

Just ask Jack Lalanne .
 
Old 11-11-2011, 01:56 PM
 
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If profits can't be made from it, it will never happen. That is the defining constant of a free market economy.
 
Old 11-11-2011, 03:35 PM
 
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Well this is probably one case where the government SHOULD step in and take over production and dissemination of something that could provide TREMENDOUS value for society.
 
Old 11-11-2011, 04:06 PM
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because the molecule is extremely cheap and can't be patented.

This is from Johns Hopkins University too, not some quack on the internet:

ScienceDirect - Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications : Advanced cancers: eradication in all cases using 3-bromopyruvate therapy to deplete ATP

If you can get to a university library you can see the photos of the remarkable recovery rats that were injected with cancer cells made after treatment with 3-bromopyruvate in the journal article. 19/19 rats studied were all cured and were still living after 1 year. Clinical trials in Europe are now on going and are seeing positive results. There was also word that a chemist in Europe somewhere got cancer, had heard of this paper, and made some crude 3-bromopyruvate in the lab out of desperation. They ended up surviving. 3-bromopyruvate has been known to have extremely interesting anti-cancer properties since 2003, so why haven't we brought it to clinical trials here in the US yet? Absolutely no pharmaceutical companies will touch it and put it into clinical trials because almost no money can be made on the molecule since it can't be patented. What should we do?
Learn how to make it yourself and administer it.
 
Old 11-11-2011, 04:07 PM
 
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Learn how to make it yourself and administer it.
Impossible to do on an industrial scale. Plus you need industrial type equipment to be sure that what you are administering is virtually 99.999% pure after you make it.
 
Old 11-11-2011, 04:11 PM
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Impossible to do on an industrial scale. Plus you need industrial type equipment to be sure that what you are administering is virtually 99.999% pure after you make it.
I did not mean on an industrial scale - but individually - like the chemist guy. Also, my remark was somewhat tongue-n-cheek. Although, I think it might still be possible.
 
Old 11-11-2011, 04:18 PM
 
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I did not mean on an industrial scale - but individually - like the chemist guy. Also, my remark was somewhat tongue-n-cheek. Although, I think it might still be possible.
And how exactly can you make it if you don't have access to proper chemistry equipment, reagents, lab, and analytical machines? Let's say you crudely did make it, then what? Most people don't have scales that can go out to .00001 grams. How exactly do make a proper concentrated solution to administer?
 
Old 11-11-2011, 04:19 PM
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Here is some further info on patent info regarding treatment methods.

US2007087740 THERAPEUTICS FOR CANCER USING 3-BROMOPYRUVATE AND OTHER SELECTIVE INHIBITORS OF ATP PRODUCTION
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