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Old 10-25-2014, 10:26 AM
 
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A radical cancer therapy: Don't treat - LA Times

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Old 10-25-2014, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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The generally accepted figure is that 17 percent of all deaths attributed to cancer, are in fact, due to the treatment. My bet is that it is, in fact, considerably higher. I've known several individuals personally who died from treatment or infections after cancer surgery.
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Old 10-25-2014, 09:08 PM
 
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That was a very good article and something most cancer patients don't consider. With my breast cancer I opted completely out of conventional treatment, incl surgery and have gone holistic and feel better now than I ever have. I'm about a year past dx. I do think that it's interesting that many docs opt out of conv treatment--it's pretty bad when they don't even trust in their own wares. I had a friend--an RN--hiss into my ear once that she would do the same thing I'm doing--she would not get chemo or radiation.
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Old 10-26-2014, 09:17 AM
 
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I work in healthcare and I've seen a lot of people get sick and die at least partially because of cancer treatments, surgeries, etc. Those are (in my experience) always the folks who have end stage cancer and are trying to treat as a last-ditch effort, and were going to die anyway.

I do not envy anyone in that position, trying to decide whether to go through the stress of chemo, radiation, surgery, when there is a low likelihood of success. Especially younger patients - children whose parents don't want to give up, and young adults with small children who don't want to leave their child without a parent.

Foregoing treatment is not "cancer therapy;" it is accepting that you're most likely going to die regardless, and wanting to enjoy life healthfully until the time comes that the cancer takes over.
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Old 10-26-2014, 09:35 AM
 
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I always think it is strange how most patients and families want everything done.... even for 90 yo grandma who is bed bound and demented. My coworkers and I always joke that we should get DNR tattoos on our chest as none of us would want the "heroic" measures we do to our patients. Most of us wouldn't go through the never ending cancer treatments that most patients want either if it is unlikely to cure or improve quality of life.
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Old 11-05-2014, 11:08 AM
 
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That's a good article. Thanks for posting the link.


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I work in healthcare and I've seen a lot of people get sick and die at least partially because of cancer treatments, surgeries, etc. Those are (in my experience) always the folks who have end stage cancer and are trying to treat as a last-ditch effort, and were going to die anyway.

I do not envy anyone in that position, trying to decide whether to go through the stress of chemo, radiation, surgery, when there is a low likelihood of success. Especially younger patients - children whose parents don't want to give up, and young adults with small children who don't want to leave their child without a parent.

Foregoing treatment is not "cancer therapy;" it is accepting that you're most likely going to die regardless, and wanting to enjoy life healthfully until the time comes that the cancer takes over.
IMO, there's nothing wrong with making that decision. Repeated treatments to fight cancer really take a toll on one's body.
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