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Old 10-17-2017, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Been reading a lot about this since I started a low-carb diet a few years ago.

It's too bad, however, some seem to think this is a "new" link. Warburg first hypothesized the cancer-sugar link in 1924.

Scientists have discovered a new link between sugar and tumor growth
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After nine years of research, molecular biologists in Belgium have discovered that sugars stimulate tumor growth.

Their results, published Friday in the journal Nature Communications, help explain a puzzle oncologists have encountered for decades — and may offer some new, diet-based Moderator cut: too long, give link'.

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Old 10-18-2017, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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OP: I read about the sugar cancer connection yrs ago. I've cut way way back on carbs/sugars.
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Old 10-20-2017, 06:49 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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A Belgian study that releases no information on sample size, method of study, etc? And the results are printed in a journal by the name of Nature Communications? Might there be a bias behind this research?

At the end of the article, it states, "The authors declare that all data supporting the findings of this study are available within the article and its Supplementary Information files." When you click on the link to Supplementary Information, you see.....readers' comments.
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Old 10-21-2017, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Nature Communications is the well-known and well-regarded journal Nature.

There is an abundance of evidence elsewhere that cancer feeds on sugars. If you doubt this study you might want to look it up and start reading.

Somebody even wrote a whole book on it:
https://www.amazon.com/Cancer-Metabo.../dp/0470584920
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:08 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Nature Communications is the well-known and well-regarded journal Nature.
Of course it is.

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There is an abundance of evidence elsewhere that cancer feeds on sugars. If you doubt this study you might want to look it up and start reading.
Ask any oncologist about this.

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Somebody even wrote a whole book on it
Yes, Dr. Thomas Seyfried, who is a professor, not a medical doctor.

Red flags or no red flags, it is, of course, possible that Dr. Seyfried is on to something and has let his enthusiasm overwhelm his judgment with respect to whom he associates with and the sorts of statements he makes, many of which sound as though they could have come from Stanislaw Burzynski, Ralph Moss, or Joe Mercola. In actuality, he isn’t totally wrong, but he isn’t totally right, either. As is typical of someone without a medical background, in particular an oncology background, he is, basically, putting the cart before the horse, as you will see.

In his talk, Dr. Seyfried begins with what he refers to as a “provocative question”: Is cancer a genetic or metabolic disease? Actually, whether he realizes it or not, his question is not quite as provocative as he thinks it is, nor is the answer anywhere near as clear-cut as he thinks it is or as he characterizes oncologists and cancer researchers as thinking it is...


https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ket...ersus-science/

“The reason why the ketogenic diet is not being prescribed to treat cancer is purely economical,” said Dr. Seyfried, author of Cancer as a Metabolic Disease. “Cancer is big business. There are more people making a living off cancer than there are dying of it.”

In other words, Dr. Seyfried thinks that we can treat all cancers with a low carb diet, implying that carbohydrates and sugars feed cancers. Furthermore, he thinks that real oncologists, who depend upon science based medicine to make real choices on how to treat cancer, are just making money off of complex treatments instead of...

https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skep...ific-nonsense/
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Old 11-18-2017, 07:56 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Sugar, Cell Phones and Secret Cures: Debunking Cancer's Biggest Myths:
https://www.curetoday.com/articles/s...iggest%20Myths
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Old 11-22-2017, 07:16 AM
 
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Sugar, Cell Phones and Secret Cures: Debunking Cancer's Biggest Myths:
https://www.curetoday.com/articles/s...iggest%20Myths
"Moynihan pointed out that two major contributors for the disease are obesity and inactivity. He suggested people make changes in these areas."

So what is a major cause of obesity.............to much sugar.
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Old 11-22-2017, 02:07 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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"Moynihan pointed out that two major contributors for the disease are obesity and inactivity. He suggested people make changes in these areas."
You left out the remainder of what he said.

Moynihan pointed out that two major contributors for the disease are obesity and inactivity. He suggested people make changes in these areas.

“Get up and move. Eat smaller amounts. Eat healthier,” he said. “This coupled with not smoking or using tobacco products and consuming alcohol in minimal doses can decrease one’s risk of cancer more than anything else.”

Other preventative measures include getting vaccinations — human papillomavirus and hepatitis B — and following screening recommendations. The earlier the cancer is caught, the better outcomes patients typically have.


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So what is a major cause of obesity.............to much sugar.
It looks as if there are many contributors to obesity, but sugar is not listed as one:

https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/hea...ics/obe/causes

https://www.medicinenet.com/obesity_...causes_obesity
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Old 11-26-2017, 04:03 PM
 
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Nature Communications is the well-known and well-regarded journal Nature.

There is an abundance of evidence elsewhere that cancer feeds on sugars. If you doubt this study you might want to look it up and start reading.

Somebody even wrote a whole book on it:
https://www.amazon.com/Cancer-Metabo.../dp/0470584920
The Journal "Nature" and the Journal "Nature Communications" are NOT one and the same, that should be evident from the titles, should it not??

They are however from the same parent organization....so it is somewhat of a moot point...

To state there is an "abundance" of evidence proving cancer feeds on sugars however is just wrong...there is no such abundance...

And because "someone wrote a book on something" is hardly proof of fact...

Here is a sampling of books endorsed by the Flat Earth Society...

https://theflatearthsociety.org/home.../library-books
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Old 01-24-2018, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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When you have a PET scan they use some sort of dextrose or similar which attaches to cancer cells which didn't take a genius to figure out that cancer likes sugar.
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