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Old 01-11-2020, 12:39 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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I worked in a hospital where a patient with a DNR was accidentally coded & she DID survive.

She was left severely brain damaged & on a ventilator. The hospital was ordered to maintain her care free of charge. She lived like that for another four years until finally dying from pneumonia.
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Old 01-11-2020, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The Default in my State is to CPR. No matter what the patients "directives" may contain.

Seems futile then to set up directives despite the Hospital itself having in its packet the 5 wishes form.

I'm currently assisting my elder uncle as he recovers from a stroke. He filled out his 5 wish form. When we presented it to the Rehab center the default response was: We have our own in house Doctor. He will "decide" what orders to write for your uncles care. The House Doctors' orders were in direct opposition to what my uncle stated in his wish form.

I advocate for dignity, respect and elder care regards. But what do I know about laws....not much apparently. Who knew a Doctor welds all the power... Which explains why if I need to meet my maker I have instructed my family to NOT send me to any hospital....
That is absolutely ridiculous.
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Old 01-11-2020, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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if a loved one fails at home, the general wisdom is to wait a good hour before making any emergency calls, thus mitigating the chances for a "miraculous" recovery.
What in the world?
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Old 01-11-2020, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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The Default in my State is to CPR. No matter what the patients "directives" may contain.

Seems futile then to set up directives despite the Hospital itself having in its packet the 5 wishes form.

I'm currently assisting my elder uncle as he recovers from a stroke. He filled out his 5 wish form. When we presented it to the Rehab center the default response was: We have our own in house Doctor. He will "decide" what orders to write for your uncles care. The House Doctors' orders were in direct opposition to what my uncle stated in his wish form.

I advocate for dignity, respect and elder care regards. But what do I know about laws....not much apparently. Who knew a Doctor welds all the power... Which explains why if I need to meet my maker I have instructed my family to NOT send me to any hospital....
What state do you live in? What is your source of info about the “default” no matter what a directive states?

I think what usually happens is EMTs or ER people don’t have access to a directive.
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Old 01-12-2020, 08:07 AM
 
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if a loved one fails at home, the general wisdom is to wait a good hour before making any emergency calls, thus mitigating the chances for a "miraculous" recovery.
That's a tough decision to make even if you're a medical professional. If the patient is terminally ill and in hospice care, that's easy- that's what I had with DH. If it's someone frail and elderly who's apparently suffered a stroke- I don't know. PT can restore a lot of function and immediate care can alleviate the effects of the stroke. I'd be more concerned that delaying the emergency call would mean they'd live but be in much worse condition than if they'd gotten immediate attention.
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