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Old 08-22-2012, 09:33 AM
 
Location: NoVa
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I was giving Kitty Katty some kitty treats on my leg and he was having a hard time picking them up due to his fangs and then he didn't chew them.

It looked like he totally inhaled them. I have never paid a lot of attention to how many teeth are in a cats mouth, etc. I looked it up and they should have molars and premolars.

I did not see any in Kitty kattys mouth. Anyone else know anything about this?
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:51 AM
 
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Cats being obigate carnivores are meat-eaters; can't "chew" like we humans can. They grasp the meat with their fangs; carnassials shred & tear. Their jaws can only go up & down as well - not sideways. This is why "anti-kibble-carb kooks" like me go ballistic when veterinarians endorse and sell kibble -- it's animal abuse because they should know this yet tell trusting clients it 'helps clean teeth', etc.

This is why you see the same man-made health issues posted on forums like this. See the "PU Surgery" thread for one example; info posted regarding the mainstream veterinary industry's conflict of interest (links to a 3 part series by a veterinarian)-- //www.city-data.com/forum/cats/...y-cats-29.html Felids also lack Amylase enzymes to break down carbs.

See -- no flat molars anywhere to grind anything , therefore they can only merely shatter it, if not swallow it whole - - and people wonder why "cat" and "puke" are synonymous!


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Old 08-22-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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Cats being obigate carnivores are meat-eaters; can't "chew" like we humans can. They grasp the meat with their fangs; carnassials shred & tear. Their jaws can only go up & down as well - not sideways. This is why "anti-kibble-carb kooks" like me go ballistic when veterinarians endorse and sell kibble -- it's animal abuse because they should know this yet tell trusting clients it 'helps clean teeth', etc.

This is why you see the same man-made health issues posted on forums like this. See the "PU Surgery" thread for one example; info posted regarding the mainstream veterinary industry's conflict of interest (links to a 3 part series by a veterinarian)-- //www.city-data.com/forum/cats/...y-cats-29.html Felids also lack Amylase enzymes to break down carbs.

See -- no flat molars anywhere to grind anything , therefore they can only merely shatter it, if not swallow it whole - - and people wonder why "cat" and "puke" are synonymous!
Everything you are saying makes sense.... I don't see where my cat has those back teeth at all.....
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Near Nashville TN
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I was giving Kitty Katty some kitty treats on my leg and he was having a hard time picking them up due to his fangs and then he didn't chew them.

It looked like he totally inhaled them. I have never paid a lot of attention to how many teeth are in a cats mouth, etc. I looked it up and they should have molars and premolars.

I did not see any in Kitty kattys mouth. Anyone else know anything about this?
If he's lost his teeth he must have suffered a lot of pain in the process. Healthy teeth don't just fall out. I think you need to take him to your vet have him/her check your cat's mouth. When was he there last? Vets usually check an animal's teeth when you bring them in for shots, exams etc.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:18 AM
 
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If he's lost his teeth he must have suffered a lot of pain in the process. Healthy teeth don't just fall out. I think you need to take him to your vet have him/her check your cat's mouth. When was he there last? Vets usually check an animal's teeth when you bring them in for shots, exams etc.
I adopted him in April and he was at the vet in February. He is 7 years old. I imagine they checked his teeth because one of his fangs had the end chipped off of it.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:39 AM
 
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I adopted him in April and he was at the vet in February. He is 7 years old. I imagine they checked his teeth because one of his fangs had the end chipped off of it.
It's odd that the Vet didn't notice the missing teeth. He or she should have and made mention of it to you. This cat needs a soft diet such as a good canned food. I would consider changing Vets. It seems the schools are cranking out Vets today that are not up to par with those of the past, not that there weren't duds back then. But had a Vet missed something like this, I wouldn't continue to go back there.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:07 PM
 
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I have not taken him to the vet as of yet. He was taken by the rescue group a couple of months before I adopted him. With that said, we took my SOs office cat to the vet Kitty Katty saw and we have not been pleased and plan to change vets for both cats. Kitty Katty is due back in February.
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Old 08-22-2012, 04:31 PM
 
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I guess he must have had some dental problems in the past. FORL and stomatitis are two dental diseases which will cause a cat to have to have multiple teeth removed.

So....it sound like someone cared enough about him at some point to pay for all that surgery. Usually, when you adopt a cat from a shelter, the first thing do is take the kitty to your own vet for a check up. Many vets don't charge for that initial check up, if the cat came from a shelter. In my area, anyway.

Cats without teeth can still eat a dry diet, most cats don't "chew" kibble anyway, they just scoop and swallow, but for Kitty Katty's overall health, and especially his kidneys and bladder and urinary tract health, a canned diet is best.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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Everything you are saying makes sense.... I don't see where my cat has those back teeth at all.....
Oh wow, didn't realise that

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Cats without teeth can still eat a dry diet, most cats don't "chew" kibble anyway, they just scoop and swallow,
Was this a typo?

They can't even eat it properly with cats teeth, or process the carbs due to lack of amylase. Imagine us trying to eat a bowl of Capt'n Crunch with a cat's teeth -- and jaws. And the natural low thirst drive leaves them clynically dehydrated on a dry diet... Feeding Your Cat: Know the Basics of Feline Nutrition :: healthy cat diet, making cat food, litter box, cat food, cat nutrition, cat urinary tract health Species was never meant to eat it, period.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:54 PM
 
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Oh wow, didn't realise that



Was this a typo?

They can't even eat it properly with cats teeth, or process the carbs due to lack of amylase. Imagine us trying to eat a bowl of Capt'n Crunch with a cat's teeth -- and jaws. And the natural low thirst drive leaves them clynically dehydrated on a dry diet... Feeding Your Cat: Know the Basics of Feline Nutrition :: healthy cat diet, making cat food, litter box, cat food, cat nutrition, cat urinary tract health Species was never meant to eat it, period.
No it was not a typo, you are quoting me out of context Cats CAN, as in "are capable of", "able to", eat dry food without teeth. I was not saying it is good for them. I was saying lack of teeth does not hinder a cat's ability to eat kibble, because they don't have chewing teeth anyway. They don't chew it, so it doesn't matter if they have teeth or not, when feeding kibble.

However I am against the feeding of ANY kibble to cats and the rest of my comment which followed, (see below) I thought, made that clear. Sorry for the confusion :

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but for Kitty Katty's overall health, and especially his kidneys and bladder and urinary tract health, a canned diet is best.

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