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Old 05-10-2011, 12:24 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Or are they? Looking for someone to poke holes in my figures:
Notwithstanding the cost, I do not *want* a smartphone. I use a phone to make phone calls and do maybe 3 - 4 texts per month.

I absolutely, positively could not care less about APPs. I don't care what the DOW is doing or checking Facebook on my phone, or what the temperature in Beirut is at any particular time of day.

I don't need an alarm clock to wake me up gently or remind me to stretch when I am working at my computer, and I don't want my phone keeping track of my caloric intake or how many calories I have burned. I don't need something to CONSTANTLY check my gmail to let me know the *instant* an email message comes in.

I don't much care when iTunes adds a new song, and since I don't go to movies, I don't care what is playing or when showtimes are. I don't even care where the cheapest gas in my town is, because I buy my gas at the same gas station every time.

All of this is just a waste of time, money and effort. I DO want a phone that has buttons instead of touch screen because you cannot operate a touch screen without looking at it, and very rarely I do answer a phone call while driving. I definitely want to be able to do it by touch alone. (I have not had much luck with bluetooth headsets).

I am seriously looking into one of these pay as you go things (Net10 or Straighttalk). I would prefer to stay on the Verizon network because they are the closest towers to where I live (which is out in the middle of nowhere).

So, I agree with your statement 100 percent that smartphones are NOT worth it.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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The virgin mobile is good if you can live within 300 minutes. Thats a lot less than the pre-pay plans.
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Virgin Mobile has an LG smart phone with Android 2.2 for $200. You can get a plan for 300 anytime minutes with unlimited text, data, email and web for $25 month. For $40 bucks, you get 1200 anytime minutes.
$60 bucks, unlimited.
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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$60 bucks, unlimited.
Yea, but for $60 it's not longer a great deal. Sprint EPRP would typically be a better value.
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Yea, but for $60 it's not longer a great deal. Sprint EPRP would typically be a better value.
Whatever works for you. VM leases Sprint air time. Though, there's no contract, month to month only.

Enjoy !
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Old 05-10-2011, 06:04 PM
 
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Notwithstanding the cost, I do not *want* a smartphone. I use a phone to make phone calls and do maybe 3 - 4 texts per month.

I absolutely, positively could not care less about APPs. I don't care what the DOW is doing or checking Facebook on my phone, or what the temperature in Beirut is at any particular time of day.

I don't need an alarm clock to wake me up gently or remind me to stretch when I am working at my computer, and I don't want my phone keeping track of my caloric intake or how many calories I have burned. I don't need something to CONSTANTLY check my gmail to let me know the *instant* an email message comes in.

I don't much care when iTunes adds a new song, and since I don't go to movies, I don't care what is playing or when showtimes are. I don't even care where the cheapest gas in my town is, because I buy my gas at the same gas station every time.

All of this is just a waste of time, money and effort. I DO want a phone that has buttons instead of touch screen because you cannot operate a touch screen without looking at it, and very rarely I do answer a phone call while driving. I definitely want to be able to do it by touch alone. (I have not had much luck with bluetooth headsets).

I am seriously looking into one of these pay as you go things (Net10 or Straighttalk). I would prefer to stay on the Verizon network because they are the closest towers to where I live (which is out in the middle of nowhere).

So, I agree with your statement 100 percent that smartphones are NOT worth it
.

20yrsinBranson
You forgot to add "for me"
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Whatever works for you. VM leases Sprint air time. Though, there's no contract, month to month only.

Enjoy !
Here's the tradeoff: If you have no contract, you are paying a premium price for the phone because that's how they make their money. If you are on a contract you get a discount on the phone because monthly service is how they make their money.
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Old 05-14-2011, 04:59 PM
 
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Here's the tradeoff: If you have no contract, you are paying a premium price for the phone because that's how they make their money. If you are on a contract you get a discount on the phone because monthly service is how they make their money.
Overall, VM is still cheaper at the $25 price point if you can live within 300 minutes.
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Old 05-15-2011, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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I'm with Verizon and have a smart phone with unlimited text, picture/video messaging, and an unlimited data plan. I only have 450 minutes, but I think the most I've ever used was less than 200. I text a decent amount, and I use the internet on my phone quite often (more than I thought I would). Before the smart phone and the unlimited data plan, my bill was just under $70 per month. The data plan added $30. So yes, my bill is quite high, but I have no family members who use Verizon so I have no one to split a bill with. For home internet use, I have a land line and a DSL modem, which is $44 per month. When I signed up for that I couldn't get DSL without a land line (which I literally never use), and I didn't want or need cable tv and cable internet alone was about the same as DSL with the land line. But now, with my smart phone I can tether to my computer for free, so I really don't need the $44 per month DSL and land line any more. The only reason I still have it is because my brother lives with me and wouldn't have internet access without it unless I was at home, and much of the time when he's here I'm not, and vice versa. So if I can figure out a way to drop the land line and DSL service, I'll actually be saving $14 per month by having a smart phone, with the added benefit of having internet access, in some form another, any time I need it.

I also tried Verizon's mobile Hotspot briefly, and within two days I had already used about half of my 3gb alloted data somehow. Why is it unlimited for $30 for smart phones but not for the Hotspot?

Edit: I should also add that the 3G internet on my phone is usually quite a bit faster than my DSL connection, and always works. When there's a storm, clouds, and/or lightening my DSL service goes in and out, and sometimes just stops working altogether. Sometimes I wonder how they can charge more than $5 for that.

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Old 08-15-2011, 04:08 PM
 
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No. I don't think so. Not for my needs. I am sure some business person could justify the extra expense.

I have a regular cell phone - pretty much unlimited minutes, unlimited texts (including pictures, etc), and I never drop a call (and I always have the best signal out of any group of people I'm with)...for about $60 a month.

To go up to a smart phone where all the features are enabled to be used fluidly and realistically, I'd have to go up to at least $100 a month (like my wife's iphone plan).

I have internet at home. I have internet at work. I have internet in my car (as well as Nav/Onstar)...why the F would I need a smart phone?
I have Sprint HTC Evo with unlimited everything and it's $8 cheaper than your phone bill.

Dont' necessarily writ off smart phones as being super expensive. I did that for a while assuming I'd be spending over $100 a month for what I really wanted.

With Sprints unlimited everything plan and a good corporate discount I'm paying $52 a month
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:33 PM
 
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Here's the tradeoff: If you have no contract, you are paying a premium price for the phone because that's how they make their money. If you are on a contract you get a discount on the phone because monthly service is how they make their money.
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Overall, VM is still cheaper at the $25 price point if you can live within 300 minutes.
This is correct, though new customers it's now $35 a month (300 mins)... Unlimited everything is now $55 a month. The in between is $45 a month (1200 minutes)

It's still cheaper... even if you purchase the Optimus V for $150 (but can be found cheaper on Amazon and eBay).

$150 for the phone
$35 a month for 24 months = $840
Total for cost of phone and 2 years of service: $990.

I'll even use my own example.
We were on Verizon's POOPY family plan.. we paid like $125 (sometimes $130, lol) a month and always chose the "FREE" phone as our upgrades.

Phone costs: $0
24 Months @ $125: $3000
Total cost: $3000

We are on Virgin Mobile now, we have the LG Optimus that we paid $150 each for. We joined before the rates increased, so we are paying $25 a month.

Phone costs: $300 (2 phones @ $150)
24 months @ $50 ($25 per phone): $1200
Total cost: $1500

It's still cheaper this way, and we always chose the FREE phone upgrade. You mentioned you get your phone "DISCOUNTED" in your 2 year contract. Sometimes that means paying $200 for a "$600" phone.
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