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Old Yesterday, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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And isn't is great you can decide what they get??
Not really, no. You have the illusion of having control, and you do have some level of control, but not what the illusion suggests.

As for what the concern is, and why you might choose to trade a little convenience for privacy, ask yourself who owns your information. All of it - where you go, what you do, the things you like, the things you dislike, when you poop and how long it takes, your personal health data, right down to your heartbeat if you use those devices, the products you use and the reasons you use them, how quickly you consume them, your sleep schedule, eating schedule, where you spend your money, whether you're a bargain hunter, which information you believe and not believe... all of it. Who owns that? 'Cuz they're collecting it, and using it. All that personal stuff is the reason they exist as a business.

I guess the bigger question would be, why would you want anyone to know it?

Who do you think knows you best? Most people would say their parents. Because they know you so well, they're able to shape your opinions and ideas, even into adulthood. Parents never stop being parents, and children never stop learning from them.

Google knows you better than your parents do. That's a fact. Facebook, too, whether you have an account with them, or not. If anyone you know uses the app and has allowed it access to their contacts, Facebook has a profile on you. If your address was in the contact record, they know where you live. They take as much as they can and keep everything.

Anyway, dig into what Google, Apple, FB et al are doing with your data. The information is out there and available. It's not wild conspiracy stuff. It just isn't talked about, because talking about it would threaten revenue and everyone involved with managing the public discussion (news, big business, gov, edu, etc) has something to lose if that data stream runs dry.

If YouTube is your thing, check out Rob Braxman's channel for a lot of specific info. If digging into search engines is your thing, just ask one why you'd want to degoogle a phone.
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Old Yesterday, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Do you know if this is VoLTE compatible or if it drops to 2g/3g for voice calls?

All US carriers are going to have decomissioned their 2g and 3g networks by this time next year forcing everyone to upgrade to a 4g/LTE or 5g phone that is VoLTE compatible and is capable of routing voice and text over the LTE/5g data stream. Unfortunately not all are.
It's LTE.
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Old Yesterday, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Any phone can be "de-googled". I don't know what the big deal is. You can just delete the google account from a phone.
No, that's not "degoogling" a phone. Not even close, and signing out does nothing to disconnect the data they collect from the profile they keep on you.

If this is something you care about, learn more. If not, have a wonderful day.
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Old Today, 07:17 AM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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No, that's not "degoogling" a phone. Not even close, and signing out does nothing to disconnect the data they collect from the profile they keep on you.

If this is something you care about, learn more. If not, have a wonderful day.
I never said sign out, I said delete. And that's the phone itself. Any other data they have on you, I doubt it's worth anybody's trouble.

Try it, it's easy.

Settings, Accounts, google account, three dots, DELETE, not sign out, that is not even possible.

I did post a link as well, I guess you missed that? Here it is again but with the title.

How to Use Android Without Google: Everything You Need to Know
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/using-...ithout-google/

FYI: You can get a new Android phone and not even sign in to google. Not quite the same as DELETING the google account but close.
https://www.computerworld.com/articl...t-google-.html

Why don't you just get a flip phone with NO internet and be done with it? or not use a cell phone at all if you are so worried about it.
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Old Today, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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That's actually very close to de-Googling. It is very easy to do. Here's the things you seem to be missing: a lot of stuff that Google collects they are NOT ALLOWED to collect without your permission. This is a fact.
If you never had a Google account and buy an Android phone and NEVER setup a Google account on that phone, very very little information about you, is sent to Google.
None of it is personally identifiable.
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