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Old 06-05-2016, 03:18 PM
 
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I've seriously looked at Carta from North MtP to downtown. I'm willing to make the short drive to the bus stop at Walmart and bike ride to the office. What I can't deal with is the additional 40 mins in the morning and 1 hour in the evening of commute time. It's just not workable.
Our public transit system right now is very rudimentary,which creates an illusion of low demand. People like you with other options are not going to waste time on a non-express bus just so our policy makers can see that people will use public transit. If we had a better system (which would take a big investment), then more people would use it. It's like the developers say: "Build it and they will come."
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Old 06-05-2016, 05:27 PM
 
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Our public transit system right now is very rudimentary,which creates an illusion of low demand. People like you with other options are not going to waste time on a non-express bus just so our policy makers can see that people will use public transit. If we had a better system (which would take a big investment), then more people would use it. It's like the developers say: "Build it and they will come."
So a monorail from my neighborhood to Charleston? A subway network? What politician wants to be the one who suggest a multibillion dollar public transportation network that has a tenth of the ridership that was predicted?
Jacksonville has a monorail downtown that was built for 10 times the passengers that actually use it. Even Disney doesn't add more monorail lines and they own all the land and have no NIMBYs to complain.
If they had some kind of L-train or something here, I'd pretty excited, but honestly I'd probably only use it a couple times. Reality is myself like most people have errands to run after work, kids to pick up, gyms to go to. Not to mention it's a bit of hike to get from my house to the nearest place a massive transit station would be. I don't mind walking a little, but not in rain, heat, and cold in work clothes.
If you look at cities that massive transit works in, it's only because the cities are huge, and driving is even more oppressive than its worth. Few people take public transit for giggles when a viable driving option is available.
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Old 06-05-2016, 06:38 PM
 
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What I like is that the same people saying we should build multi-billion dollar projects like monorail's and Subway's are the same one's saying I-526 being completed would be to expensive.
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:44 PM
 
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What I like is that the same people saying we should build multi-billion dollar projects like monorail's and Subway's are the same one's saying I-526 being completed would be to expensive.
Yeah, some of this discussion should probably be on a different thread. I-526, as a road project, was ridiculously expensive for what it did. It died on its own lack of merit. No one is proposing mass transit in its place on James and Johns Island for the immediate future. Smaller, more effective road projects are finally getting some steam behind them now that 526 is dead.
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:22 PM
 
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Yeah, some of this discussion should probably be on a different thread. I-526, as a road project, was ridiculously expensive for what it did. It died on its own lack of merit. No one is proposing mass transit in its place on James and Johns Island for the immediate future. Smaller, more effective road projects are finally getting some steam behind them now that 526 is dead.
They're not getting steam from the state's money that was tied to 526. That money is being spent elsewhere.
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:28 PM
 
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Yeah, some of this discussion should probably be on a different thread. I-526, as a road project, was ridiculously expensive for what it did. It died on its own lack of merit. No one is proposing mass transit in its place on James and Johns Island for the immediate future. Smaller, more effective road projects are finally getting some steam behind them now that 526 is dead.

Exactly what road projects are you referring to that's getting some steam? Zero, zip. There's no money. It's going to other parts of the state. Thanks Dana!
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:29 PM
 
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Our public transit system right now is very rudimentary,which creates an illusion of low demand. People like you with other options are not going to waste time on a non-express bus just so our policy makers can see that people will use public transit. If we had a better system (which would take a big investment), then more people would use it. It's like the developers say: "Build it and they will come."
My experience is with the express bus.
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:54 PM
 
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Exactly what road projects are you referring to that's getting some steam? Zero, zip. There's no money. It's going to other parts of the state. Thanks Dana!
Let's see how fast the Maybank pitchfork gets built now that County Council can no longer torture Johns Islanders to get them to support 526.
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Old 06-05-2016, 10:45 PM
 
Location: TPA
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Our public transit system right now is very rudimentary,which creates an illusion of low demand. People like you with other options are not going to waste time on a non-express bus just so our policy makers can see that people will use public transit. If we had a better system (which would take a big investment), then more people would use it. It's like the developers say: "Build it and they will come."
MARTA is the most advance pub trans system in the Southeast (1 of only 2 in the top 15), is 44 years old, but only serves 433,000 people total in a region of over 6 million. 7% of the populous. And thats the most advanced in the SE with over 4 decades of infrastructure build and push.

Building it and having people come is not that simple.

And yes i know part of MARTA's problem is lack of suburb extension, but NIMBYs arent exactly silent in Charleston either. No matter what, it wouldnt be a cakewalk. Charleston is just not st that level. Even Charlotte really isnt at that level.
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Old 06-06-2016, 07:04 AM
 
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My experience is with the express bus.
I just googled the express bus route from my home in North Mount P.
It's claiming 3 hrs to do a trip that takes me 30 min. Cost is $4.50 each way. Even my most inefficient vehicle is half that.
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