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Old 09-22-2016, 09:07 AM
 
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Funny thing about that is that we all, presumably, live in South Carolina.
It's simply an example of what states can do when they are run by people who are not thinking.
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Old 09-22-2016, 10:17 AM
 
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That's because it's very hard to read for me since he doesn't put COMMAS where they clearly belong. This makes sentences read like run on sentences.
His post was pretty easy to read, and it was pretty clear what he was trying to say.

Bridges and highways don't automatically equal an "explosion" in growth. That applies to anywhere, not just the Charleston region. Mt Pleasant has grown (steadily) thanks to it's unparalleled qualities and factors (safety, schools, value, location, etc), not because it has a big, postcard-esque bridge and spur highway to get into it.

The same will apply to Johns Island. 526 can bring growth, but if there's limited room and high demand, Johns Island will grow anyway, which is already starting to happen. 526 (or some new outlets in general) will just help manage it better.
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Old 09-22-2016, 10:32 AM
 
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It is supply and demand, but given two towns and one has great highway access and the other has a piddly 2 lane road going to it, most people will buy or build in the town with better roads and access.
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Old 09-22-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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It is supply and demand, but given two towns and one has great highway access and the other has a piddly 2 lane road going to it, most people will buy or build in the town with better roads and access.
Johns Island isn't on fire because the infrastructure is still lacking, and theres still better options. Infrastructure is more than roads/a highway. Once that infrastructure gets put in place, then it won't matter.

Even if 526 were built and finished today, it still wouldn't fix and improve everything else, at least not directly. Schools being one of the biggest. How will the Johns Island schools get up to Mount Pleasant, or even James Island quality? Well it'll take a few things, but a highway itself won't make a school better.

I'm just trying to dispel the myth that a highway will suddenly cause rampant growth.
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Old 09-22-2016, 10:54 AM
 
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It is supply and demand, but given two towns and one has great highway access and the other has a piddly 2 lane road going to it, most people will buy or build in the town with better roads and access.
Not really, a lot of people want that small town feel. So they move there, and more people keep moving there and eventually it's a large town with terrible access...... Otherwise known as what's happening on John's Island.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:30 AM
 
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It is supply and demand, but given two towns and one has great highway access and the other has a piddly 2 lane road going to it, most people will buy or build in the town with better roads and access.

This post is ironic when you realize that Mt Pleasant boomed when the entire East Cooper area was accessible from the two old Cooper River Bridges. They only offered 2 lanes back during evening rush. Johns Island has two different bridges with a total of 3 lanes back which combine for only 2 total lanes on solid ground. Adding to Johns Islands traffic issue is that the schools are not well rated so huge swaths of the residents use private schools or charter/magnate public schools off island. Murray Lesaine on James Island is now Montessori and functions as a partial magnate so that opens up Johns Island to a lot of people who previously may not have considered it. I also know people who used St Andrews and Orange Grove as out of attendance area transfers.

Similarly Goose Creek and Summerville have boomed even though each has limited surface road access.


The truth is most people start a house search with a price point and then work backward. If Johns Island cost as much as peninsular Charleston or Old Village Mt Pleasant it would not be booming. But when most properties are more comparable to outer West Ashley or Summerville a lot of people begin giving it a look. Especially when the price discount facilitates private schools or a larger/nicer home. Since there are no major (and few minor) employers on Johns Island it functions as a suburb that still has some remnants of farming. If true rural living were the goal people would head past Jedburg or out to Ravenel.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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Johns Island isn't on fire because the infrastructure is still lacking, and theres still better options. Infrastructure is more than roads/a highway. Once that infrastructure gets put in place, then it won't matter.

Even if 526 were built and finished today, it still wouldn't fix and improve everything else, at least not directly. Schools being one of the biggest. How will the Johns Island schools get up to Mount Pleasant, or even James Island quality? Well it'll take a few things, but a highway itself won't make a school better.

I'm just trying to dispel the myth that a highway will suddenly cause rampant growth.
But Johns Island is on fire to use your words. It's growing very rapidly with tons of 1/5 acre houses recently built and many new subdivisions in progress now.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:57 AM
 
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This post is ironic when you realize that Mt Pleasant boomed when the entire East Cooper area was accessible from the two old Cooper River Bridges. They only offered 2 lanes back during evening rush. Johns Island has two different bridges with a total of 3 lanes back which combine for only 2 total lanes on solid ground. Adding to Johns Islands traffic issue is that the schools are not well rated so huge swaths of the residents use private schools or charter/magnate public schools off island. Murray Lesaine on James Island is now Montessori and functions as a partial magnate so that opens up Johns Island to a lot of people who previously may not have considered it. I also know people who used St Andrews and Orange Grove as out of attendance area transfers.

Similarly Goose Creek and Summerville have boomed even though each has limited surface road access.


The truth is most people start a house search with a price point and then work backward. If Johns Island cost as much as peninsular Charleston or Old Village Mt Pleasant it would not be booming. But when most properties are more comparable to outer West Ashley or Summerville a lot of people begin giving it a look. Especially when the price discount facilitates private schools or a larger/nicer home. Since there are no major (and few minor) employers on Johns Island it functions as a suburb that still has some remnants of farming. If true rural living were the goal people would head past Jedburg or out to Ravenel.
That is correct. The rural living of the current residents of Johns Island (the many farms) is being squeezed by all of this new construction.
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:13 PM
 
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That is correct. The rural living of the current residents of Johns Island (the many farms) is being squeezed by all of this new construction.
So you admit that the area is growing rapidly even without I-526 being completed? If your main argument against completion is that it would cause growth, and you accept that the growth is happening regardless what is your real opposition?
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:20 PM
 
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It will accelerate growth even more. I'll move in a few years and make good money off the growth but I feel for people here who grew up here and are not leaving.
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