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A) I can’t possibly imagine how this is the state’s responsibility.
The state has solvable problems such as jobs, which they’re doing an awesome job at resolving.
Roads which aren’t as bad as people think they are, yet the gas tax increase was completely necessary to stay ahead before it’s an actual problem.
Education is largely demographic related. If you go to a school where being the smart guy in class gets you a beat down, that’s a mentality problem not a political one. The fact remains there are good school options to chose from if you don’t share that mentality. Most states with “good schools” simply have more affluent suburbs to water down the stats and put them near the top.
What I donsee as a problem are the goofy annexation laws that leaves Swiss cheese looking disjointed city limits all over the map. And the whole state owned/underfunded school bus thing.
Again, the series has some suggestions if you'd give it a read. No the state has no responsibility over what we personally do, but they are also not here just to give us an address. If I want to go rob Walmart, well the state has nothing to do with that, that's my life. But if I want to sit in an adequate, modern classroom then the state plays a hand in that, not me.
Just because there's an opportunity somewhere, doesn't mean there's opportunity in general. Sure CT may have a bunch of wealthy suburbs, but that still ignores the point, nor is it really the root either. It's a factor, but it's not the factor. Again for example, Lexington kids getting 6 random languages while Swansea kids get 1 is an eye opener, especially when it's the same county. To me it's deeper than someone having 6.
I think taking all these rankings as gospel is silly too - and agree our city limits and buses need some serious work, but at the same time there's a difference between an in-depth series or analysis and a Buzzfeed article about which state has the best bread. All these problems can be fixed, or at least made better. There's no problem that is just "that's just how it is, we can't fix it."
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People will still move here either way, and eventually the percentage of wife beaters vs non wife beaters will go down over time. It’s not like it’s geography related.
Yeah SC has been a fast growing state for a while, but it hasn't seemed to have much an effect on some stats. And yeah it's great the gas tax was raised, but the governor still vetoed it and many residents still had a problem.
Again, the series has some suggestions if you'd give it a read. No the state has no responsibility over what we personally do, but they are also not here just to give us an address. If I want to go rob Walmart, well the state has nothing to do with that, that's my life. But if I want to sit in an adequate, modern classroom then the state plays a hand in that, not me.
Just because there's an opportunity somewhere, doesn't mean there's opportunity in general. Sure CT may have a bunch of wealthy suburbs, but that still ignores the point, nor is it really the root either. It's a factor, but it's not the factor. Again for example, Lexington kids getting 6 random languages while Swansea kids get 1 is an eye opener, especially when it's the same county. To me it's deeper than someone having 6.
I think taking all these rankings as gospel is silly too - and agree our city limits and buses need some serious work, but at the same time there's a difference between an in-depth series or analysis and a Buzzfeed article about which state has the best bread. All these problems can be fixed, or at least made better. There's no problem that is just "that's just how it is, we can't fix it."
Yeah SC has been a fast growing state for a while, but it hasn't seemed to have much an effect on some stats. And yeah it's great the gas tax was raised, but the governor still vetoed it and many residents still had a problem.
Not sure what’s going on with the school with 6 foreign languages thing. My small rural South Texas school offered Spanish (half the class spoke fluently anyway) and briefly French (we had a teacher who minored in French but had never been to a French speaking country). I took both for 5 years (3 years Spanish and 2 French). The Spanish I’ve used a lot, the French is completely gone. While it’s fun to offer Latin, Aramaic, Mandarin Chinese, etc. if you’re not actively using the language it’s not necessarily making you a better student. I still became an engineer anyway. In general, the smaller the school, the less of these electives you’ll find.
I will say that schools that complain there’s no money, yet when they get it spend it on athletics, need to work on their priorities.
What I don’t like about these “best places to live” articles, aside from the over generalizations, is that states that rank near the top of the middle of the rankings take it as a success metric when in reality they could just be just .5% off.
Not sure what’s going on with the school with 6 foreign languages thing. My small rural South Texas school offered Spanish (half the class spoke fluently anyway) and briefly French (we had a teacher who minored in French but had never been to a French speaking country). I took both for 5 years (3 years Spanish and 2 French). The Spanish I’ve used a lot, the French is completely gone. While it’s fun to offer Latin, Aramaic, Mandarin Chinese, etc. if you’re not actively using the language it’s not necessarily making you a better student. I still became an engineer anyway. In general, the smaller the school, the less of these electives you’ll find.
I will say that schools that complain there’s no money, yet when they get it spend it on athletics, need to work on their priorities.
What I don’t like about these “best places to live” articles, aside from the over generalizations, is that states that rank near the top of the middle of the rankings take it as a success metric when in reality they could just be just .5% off.
See that's not the point I'm trying to make though. My high school only offered 3 languages, one being Latin, which I don't really see the point of. I came out fine. My point is SC has a large case of haves and have nots in terms of schools, much more so than a state such as Mass.
A big problem is how we fund our schools, economics, and our general attitude. It's quite obvious. A quick Google search will reveal multiple studies and cases about it, including studies from the state itself. They recognize the problem, so it's not a myth. I know smaller schools will inherently have less, but the quantity isn't the point.
What smaller school is spending all their money on athletics? The argument can be made that the wealthy, larger schools are really the ones who do that, considering the grandiose stadiums and shiny new equipment they get, including my school. Lexington 1 has at least 5 sports that Lexington 4 doesn't offer, including bowling, so clearly the money that Lex 4 does have is not being funneled all into athletics.
A wealthy high school in Dallas just spent $60 million on a new 18,000 seat stadium. For a high school.
Like I said, I agree rankings are not sacred. Iowa is considered #1 but I'd rather live here than Iowa. California is the #1 most desirable state, but that doesn't mean it's a paradise. Mass is #1 in education, but not everyone there is Einstein.
The point is rankings are typically subjective, but they can also raise some valid flags. Ignoring them as subjective dribble is why they don't move. We settle. Everything can be fixed or made better if the will is there.
I’m a South Carolina native and I finally got out of SC and headed for Colorado February 2nd. I haven’t looked back. The southeast is beautiful and will always be my home, but I will never live there again. Great place to visit, terrible place to put down roots.
I’m a South Carolina native and I finally got out of SC and headed for Colorado February 2nd. I haven’t looked back. The southeast is beautiful and will always be my home, but I will never live there again. Great place to visit, terrible place to put down roots.
I think that's a matter of perspective. I mean there are a lot of things about SC that I'm not proud of, trust me. Just look at all the people on this board who can't accept that SC has real, actual problems without whining about all the problems that other states have. But, aside from the head in the sand mentality I see so prevalent here, there really are some positives. Weather is great as long as you're ok with the summer heat. Also, the history and culture is pretty unique. Restaurants are damn good. Beaches are some of the best (Botany Bay!).
All that said, are there better places? Without question. But, there are worse as well! Try living in the midwest. Or Texas! Barf!
Pretty sure I have not seen anybody say SC does not have any problems.
Also don't think pointing out other states have problems is whining. If that's whining, so is pointing out SC has problems.
It is whining when someone says SC has a problem and the direct response to that is "Iowa sucks too!" instead of acknowledging the problem here in SC (where you live) and addressing it.
That doesn't make any sense. Your premise is that people can say SC is terrible compared to other states but other people can't examine if that is true. They must agree with the premise.
Complaining about problems in SC isn't addressing it. For example, posting 'domestic violence in SC is a major problem' isn't going to reduce domestic violence in SC.
Moreover, there is no direct correlation between what state you live in and domestic violence. The probability of being a victim of domestic violence is related to what kind of partner or other family members a person has, not what state he or she lives in.
If your family members or partners are mentally healthy, law abiding, non alcohol / drug abusers, the probability that you are victim of domestic abuse is basically zero regardless of what state you live in.
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For example, posting 'domestic violence in SC is a major problem' isn't going to reduce domestic violence in SC.
Literally nobody said that "posting domestic violence in SC is a major problem" would solve domestic violence. However, your excuses that domestic violence happens everywhere and that if you're "mentally healthy" it is less likely very definitely does HINDER efforts to increase domestic violence awareness and prevention. You don't acknowledge the problem. You only make excuses.
You have no evidence that my 'excuse' hinders anything.
I haven't made an excuse for anything. That is a baseless accusation.
My point is I don't see a correlation between domestic violence and what state a person lives in. It is related to other factors. That cannot accurately be described as an 'excuse' for domestic violence.
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