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Old 01-08-2021, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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There have been some fines. I work in the F&B industry here and the fire marshall and tourism officers will do spot checks every now and then but it’s not widely forced.
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Old 01-09-2021, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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I’m actually watching a report on the hard-hit Latino population in LA on NBC Nightly News right now. Their COVID case and death statistics are twice the general population’s there. Sad, but it’s an example of the problem of comparing such different population bases.
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Old 01-11-2021, 12:11 AM
 
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I’m actually watching a report on the hard-hit Latino population in LA on NBC Nightly News right now. Their COVID case and death statistics are twice the general population’s there. Sad, but it’s an example of the problem of comparing such different population bases.
Must be a Latino thing.
Of the countries hardest hit by Covid the mortality rate for Mexico is a distant #1 .

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
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Old 01-11-2021, 12:23 AM
 
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Did the report you read or heard on that mention what might be going on with masks? Any fines? Fines in Charleston have been in the news at least twice. Also, maybe large households among demographic subsets that may be less likely to follow ordinances in a huge, more densely populated area might come into play in LA.
I now know at least 13 people who have had Covid in the past month (all in different states). In every case it seems it was contracted from friends and family. Mask ordinances mean you have to wear a mask in a grocery store, but doesn’t mean you need to wear one to your cousins house. Right now it’s socially acceptable to wear a mask in public but not so at a family member’s house where the government has no authority.
Fines seem largely unenforceable in most cases.
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Old 01-11-2021, 10:00 AM
 
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But if most people weren’t wearing masks in most public gatherings, lots more people would be spreading it to their families and close friends because a lot more people would be carriers. In Latinx communities, a lot more people live together in extended families, so the at-home spread is multiplied.
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Old 01-11-2021, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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Whether tighter measures help or not (Hint: They do.), the city of Charleston just tightened its COVID prevention measures in light of the fact that the numbers are headed the wrong way again. The county is still not getting as many new cases as some of the other large counties, and it’s not the worst in total cases.

https://www.postandcourier.com/news/...ZRFE13QlYnItIs
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Old 01-11-2021, 08:40 PM
 
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Whether tighter measures help or not (Hint: They do.), the city of Charleston just tightened its COVID prevention measures in light of the fact that the numbers are headed the wrong way again. The county is still not getting as many new cases as some of the other large counties, and it’s not the worst in total cases.

https://www.postandcourier.com/news/...ZRFE13QlYnItIs

Right now the hardest hit areas of the country are those with the tightest restrictions. Statistically it’s safe to say nothing is working.
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Old 01-12-2021, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Mount Pleasant
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Whether tighter measures help or not (Hint: They do.), the city of Charleston just tightened its COVID prevention measures in light of the fact that the numbers are headed the wrong way again. The county is still not getting as many new cases as some of the other large counties, and it’s not the worst in total cases.

https://www.postandcourier.com/news/...ZRFE13QlYnItIs
It's a step in the right direction, but won't change SC's population of anti-maskers or "part-time" maskers.

SC now has 5 counties whose hospitals are at 100% capacity, and many of our surrounding counties are close. Our neighbor Berkeley County is at 108.7% hospital occupancy. 28 counties are over 75% occupancy.

With one of the largest hospital systems in the state, Charleston county hospital occupancy numbers will soon be rising above their current 87.6% as they take on patients from other counties. I haven't heard of McMaster's plan for field hospitals, but the problem will be lack of resources, including staffing.

Providence Hospital in Columbia turned away patients yesterday because they are at capacity.

SC's vaccine administration was lagging according to the CDC but should pick up steam now that McMaster has announced age 70+ to be brought into Phase 1a. That's a population that wants the vaccine. Unfortunately, that population is also the most mask compliant, so it won't help with community spread, but at least they will now have some protection from the population who aren't wearing masks.

https://www.wtoc.com/2021/01/11/cdc-...covid-vaccine/

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

What's troublesome is the number of health care providers opting out of the vaccine (reports are at 40%) as they are most at risk of getting COVID and as hospital occupancy increases one of our most critical community resources.

The next hurdle will be getting people to understand that they still have to wear a mask after vaccination because they can still potentially spread (and catch) the virus.

Last edited by macalan; 01-12-2021 at 06:22 AM..
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Old 01-12-2021, 09:36 PM
 
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It's a step in the right direction, but won't change SC's population of anti-maskers or "part-time" maskers.

SC now has 5 counties whose hospitals are at 100% capacity, and many of our surrounding counties are close. Our neighbor Berkeley County is at 108.7% hospital occupancy. 28 counties are over 75% occupancy.

With one of the largest hospital systems in the state, Charleston county hospital occupancy numbers will soon be rising above their current 87.6% as they take on patients from other counties. I haven't heard of McMaster's plan for field hospitals, but the problem will be lack of resources, including staffing.

Providence Hospital in Columbia turned away patients yesterday because they are at capacity.

SC's vaccine administration was lagging according to the CDC but should pick up steam now that McMaster has announced age 70+ to be brought into Phase 1a. That's a population that wants the vaccine. Unfortunately, that population is also the most mask compliant, so it won't help with community spread, but at least they will now have some protection from the population who aren't wearing masks.

https://www.wtoc.com/2021/01/11/cdc-...covid-vaccine/

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

What's troublesome is the number of health care providers opting out of the vaccine (reports are at 40%) as they are most at risk of getting COVID and as hospital occupancy increases one of our most critical community resources.

The next hurdle will be getting people to understand that they still have to wear a mask after vaccination because they can still potentially spread (and catch) the virus.
FYI, your home state of Massachusetts’s is doing worse than SC. https://covidactnow.org/?s=1508461
This isn’t an SC problem, it’s all over, including Europe.
The highest death rate is among 70 and and up so it makes sense to vaccinate those at most risk. The younger population is the most careless with precautions but also tend to suffer less complications. For them it’s basically a glorified flu. If the goal is to prevent deaths and crowded hospitals, and the most affected are vaccinated, who cares how careless the least affected are.

Again McMaster is doing great at this so far. If 40% of people who got a first crack at it don’t want it, then they’re on their own and we move on to those that do. I hear the appointments for 70+ are already booked up for the vaccine we have available which meets Fauci’s advice to roll vaccines out to as many people as quickly as possible. We were already ahead of most of the rest of the country in vaccine distribution.
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Old 01-12-2021, 09:41 PM
 
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It's a step in the right direction, but won't change SC's population of anti-maskers or "part-time" maskers.

SC now has 5 counties whose hospitals are at 100% capacity, and many of our surrounding counties are close. Our neighbor Berkeley County is at 108.7% hospital occupancy. 28 counties are over 75% occupancy.

With one of the largest hospital systems in the state, Charleston county hospital occupancy numbers will soon be rising above their current 87.6% as they take on patients from other counties. I haven't heard of McMaster's plan for field hospitals, but the problem will be lack of resources, including staffing.

Providence Hospital in Columbia turned away patients yesterday because they are at capacity.

SC's vaccine administration was lagging according to the CDC but should pick up steam now that McMaster has announced age 70+ to be brought into Phase 1a. That's a population that wants the vaccine. Unfortunately, that population is also the most mask compliant, so it won't help with community spread, but at least they will now have some protection from the population who aren't wearing masks.

https://www.wtoc.com/2021/01/11/cdc-...covid-vaccine/

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

What's troublesome is the number of health care providers opting out of the vaccine (reports are at 40%) as they are most at risk of getting COVID and as hospital occupancy increases one of our most critical community resources.

The next hurdle will be getting people to understand that they still have to wear a mask after vaccination because they can still potentially spread (and catch) the virus.
FYI, your home state of Massachusetts’s is doing worse than SC. https://covidactnow.org/?s=1508461
This isn’t an SC problem, it’s all over, including Europe.
The highest death rate is among 70 and and up so it makes sense to vaccinate those at most risk. The younger population is the most careless with precautions but also tend to suffer less complications. For them it’s basically a glorified flu. If the goal is to prevent deaths and crowded hospitals, and the most affected are vaccinated, who cares how careless the least affected are.

Again McMaster is doing great at this so far. If 40% of people who got a first crack at it don’t want it, then they’re on their own and we move on to those that do. I hear the appointments for 70+ are already booked up for the vaccine we have available which meets Fauci’s advice to roll vaccines out to as many people as quickly as possible. We were already ahead of most of the rest of the country in vaccine distribution.
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