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Old 06-24-2010, 12:08 PM
 
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Stopping homelessness - one of Foxx's great goals - is impossible. If you're homeless in Atlanta and hear there's a wealth of affordable housing in CLT, where you going to go, by hook or crook?

Pretty soon, the community would be a higher percentage of "affordable housing" residents than home owners.

Remember what Margaret Thatcher once said: "Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people's money."
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Ayrsley
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Yep, 10th St. in Uptown. District 1. Certainly not the lowest # of units in the city, but only about half of the # of units that District 3, where they wanted to get the waiver for the CMHP Westinghouse Apartments.

I don't see him pleading to the Councilmen from Districts 4, 5 and 7 (the lowest # of units) to "think of the 3000 homeless children" and support low-income housing in THEIR neighborhoods....
Take a look at our developer, Mr. Tom Henson's $1.8mil, 7 bed / 6 ba property.

Although i wonder how accurate these records are. I'll have closed on my place here 2 years ago come August 1 and I am not in the system.
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Old 06-24-2010, 03:07 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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Stopping homelessness - one of Foxx's great goals - is impossible. If you're homeless in Atlanta and hear there's a wealth of affordable housing in CLT, where you going to go, by hook or crook?

Pretty soon, the community would be a higher percentage of "affordable housing" residents than home owners.

Remember what Margaret Thatcher once said: "Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people's money."
Seeing as how a big percentage of the homeless folks in Charlotte are not even FROM Charlotte, I believe your observation is already status quo.

And I still want to know . . . with so many houses in foreclosure and HUD having a "give away" program to anyone with a voucher and $100 down for a home . . . why is this city (and MAYOR) continuing to push affordable housing construction? It is NUTS. We have empty houses sitting all over the county!

Methinks our good Mayor has set his sights on getting recognition from the federal gubment for being the "most progressive" mayor in the USA for building affordable housing - in the middle of neighborhoods where folks could never have afforded to live otherwise. Talk about an "entitlement" attitude. What happened to living where one could afford to live? I was taught that I would have to live within my means - even if that meant in a lousy neighborhood. Now, you get a voucher and someone subsidizes your rent . . . which I can understand if someone is disabled or elderly . . . but otherwise . . . who decided that everyone "deserves" the same type of housing? What gets me is that people seem to think that everyone is "entitled" to live a middle class life, even if they have never earned a middle class education and their only claim to fame is they had five kids for the state to support. But now let's make sure they get "affordable housing" (code for: upscale housing they can't afford without a SUBSTANTIAL subsidy)

Unbelievable.

I should just quit living a responsible life, sell everything, take a trip around the world, and when I get back . . . apply for my gubment subsidies, get my voucher and sign up for my "affordable housing," since I won't even have to leave South Charlotte, despite being broke as a house cat. Why am I busting my arse to live in a great school district, in an area with upscale amenities, when I could have had five kids, free daycare, subsidized education, free healthcare and "affordable housing?"

Dang.

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Old 06-24-2010, 03:27 PM
 
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This country needs to look at how welfare works in other countries. My girlfriend in Germany was on government aid but she had to go out there get training and a job. Not just sit on her butt and do nothing. It is a problem when there is generational welfare and one gets back more in a tax refund than they ever put in. Ani let me know how it works for you and I will join ya
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Old 06-24-2010, 04:19 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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This country needs to look at how welfare works in other countries. My girlfriend in Germany was on government aid but she had to go out there get training and a job. Not just sit on her butt and do nothing. It is a problem when there is generational welfare and one gets back more in a tax refund than they ever put in. Ani let me know how it works for you and I will join ya
Banjanqueen - excellent point.

We all know that it is possible for any of us to "fall upon hard times" and need assistance. And the disabled and elderly should definitely get some breaks!

Any society must make provision to help those who can't live above dire poverty without assistance - but that doesn't mean a continual "free ride."

I am just amazed at how things have transformed in this country from state assistance being defined as "subsistance living" (to keep folks from starving until people get back on their feet) to "raising someone's lifestyle to middle class." I don't get it.

But I think I could learn, lol, so I will let ya know when I figure it all out so we can take our turn with some "assistance"

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Old 06-24-2010, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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As always - well said Ani!!! I agree with every thing you said WHOLE HEARTEDLY!!!!!!
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Old 06-24-2010, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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It is a problem when there is generational welfare and one gets back more in a tax refund than they ever put in.
I just found out a couple families I know got $10,000 back from their IRS refund.
When my brother and I found out, we were really upset. They work 36-40 hours a week (being cashier or pushing grocery carts) and make sure they don't earn above a certain amount. That way they can be below the poverty line. They get free healthcare and all this money back. It's unbelievable. They are all young, healthy, able bodied people. It's so disgusting that our taxes go to people who work less hours than the rest of us and have lower skilled positions. If you want to work less and stay in a lower skilled position, that's fine, but why should you get 10,000 dollars for it?!
I feel like crying when I think about this, because I work so hard and many long hours in a technical position. And they get a free 10K based off of my productivity.
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Old 06-24-2010, 09:13 PM
 
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I promise you that we are heading down the same path as Greece and when we have to remove "assistance" from the federal budget for the survival of the country there will be bloody riots in the streets.

Shudder.
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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Saw today that there's going to be a meeting in Ballantyne (and other areas) by the CHA about affordable housing. I suspect this is a precursor to another affordable housing onslaught across Charlotte. Given the last two defeats by CHA it is very clear that they are now on a PR campaign to get projects rolling before their stream of money (stimulus funding) dries up. Details here: The Ballantyne, NC Scoop
Oh Boy.... Not this topic again!! Look unless you're someone with power and $$ these plans are going to go through. Give it a rest already!
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Indian Land
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Socialism = The New America
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