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Old 04-03-2011, 06:07 PM
 
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Yes I can certainly agree with that in some regard. Keep in mind in the Summer and the Earth tilted towards the sun it's not as much of a difference.






Florida: Sorry man, it's not "hotter" there in the Summer months. Charlotte has higher extremes. However, the very thing I said, is what you are now repeating. Who are you arguing with? lol Look below:




So I'm not sure what above you disagree with here in this thread.

As for "heat" being there for 5 months, I would disagree with that. You make it sound as if May in Charlotte is like Summer in CT, it's far from it. The average high the last two years was 79*.

We had 80* weather in April here in CT last year as well, and I've experienced plenty of 90* days in April too over the years. Point being they are not the "norm". Same for having hot rippers in May Charlotte, it's the exception and not "Summer heat".
JV ..I think you are trying to convince yourself that Florida is not bad in summer because you may move there...and that is fine. To me and most everyone else Florida is hot and humid as blazes in summer...its not rocket science, as its further south, its in the tropics and its near water.
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:11 PM
 
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JV ..I think you are trying to convince yourself that Florida is not bad in summer because you may move there...and that is fine. To me and most everyone else Florida is hot and humid as blazes in summer...its not rocket science, as its further south, its in the tropics and its near water.
What part of what I typed that you are repeating as a "contrast" is not sinking in? I said the very thing you are saying. We agree...Good God.

The part you can't except that science is clear about is the further you go towards the tropics and ocean, the less extremes you experience. Florida is more temperate than Charlotte, meaning you hardly find a 100*+ day there. That's just factual.
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:27 PM
 
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..... Florida is more temperate than Charlotte, meaning you hardly find a 100*+ day there. That's just factual.
Factual? Are you kidding? Orlando in July is like Hades on Earth. The summer sun beating down on that flat decomposed coral combined with no breeze and the humidity evaporating from from the daily thunderstorm, makes for extremely unpleasant conditions. Something is always burning out of control there too whether it be garbage or scrubbrush. In fact I think even the Devil would avoid it as I've been there where day after day it's been above 100. Minny and Mickey Mouse pack their bags and head to the NC mountains with a horde of other Floridaites during this period for some relief.

To be fair, Fla. is a very long state that stretches from the temperate zones to tropical so it's not really realistic to characterize it as one climate. it's the same here in NC as we are talking about a state that ranges from the Outer Banks to the highest mountains in Eastern North America. Huge range of climates for both. I have lived in both states, and i think NC in general has a nicer climate than Florida.

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Old 04-03-2011, 07:35 PM
 
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What part of what I typed that you are repeating as a "contrast" is not sinking in? I said the very thing you are saying. We agree...Good God.

The part you can't except that science is clear about is the further you go towards the tropics and ocean, the less extremes you experience. Florida is more temperate than Charlotte, meaning you hardly find a 100*+ day there. That's just factual.
Here's what you are missing or ignoring. During the summer months, most of Florida's heat index reaches 100 or better on a regular basis which is extremely uncomfortable. The way they do that is not just temps in the high 80's-low 90's, its the DEW POINT which makes it extremely unbearable. Its generally on the line of a Savannah GA or Charleston SC which summers are just as brutal. Furthermore, florida being 600-700 miles further south do not receive back door or cool fronts for that matter until the fall....translation, no temporary cooling.

Charlotte being a couple hundred miles from the coast AND being 600+ft in sea level automatically gives itself its own A/C at night in the summer. Something unheard of in Florida during those months.
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:04 AM
 
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What part of what I typed that you are repeating as a "contrast" is not sinking in? I said the very thing you are saying. We agree...Good God.

The part you can't except that science is clear about is the further you go towards the tropics and ocean, the less extremes you experience. Florida is more temperate than Charlotte, meaning you hardly find a 100*+ day there. That's just factual.
I understand you perfectly ..but its not just about temperature!!! What part of THAT are you not understanding?
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:11 AM
 
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I looked up the average Temp and Humidity for both areas.

Basically, the average temp and humidity is higher in Florida, and for a longer period. But there isn't much of a difference really. A couple days and a few degrees different from Charlotte..

On the other hand, the record highs, and fluctuation are higher and more drastic up here, which surprised me

So I guess you are both right to some extent..
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:23 AM
 
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I looked up the average Temp and Humidity for both areas.

Basically, the average temp and humidity is higher in Florida, and for a longer period. But there isn't much of a difference really. A couple days and a few degrees different from Charlotte..

On the other hand, the record highs, and fluctuation are higher and more drastic up here, which surprised me

So I guess you are both right to some extent..
I got news for you...the record highs in CONNECTICUT are higher than Florida...this is nutty! Its hotter and more humid for much longer duration in Florida . If this argument is which place has the more extreme temps then yes, Charlotte does, so does friggin Bismarck North Dakota...and thats a fact...geez...would you say its hotter in summer there???
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:34 AM
 
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I don't know the costs up north anymore as we've been here over 12 years. Though, between our electric bill (lights, A/C, stove and wall ovens) and natural gas bill (water and heat), we averaged $225 per month on a 3300 sq.ft new brick home over the last 2 years.

Keep in mind, I said "average." I took my 2009 and 2010 totals from a spreadsheet I keep and divided by 24 (months).

I know some of our family members up north in homes half the sq.footage are paying $400 -$600 month in winter for heating oil.

Wow, that is way cheaper. I am not even very far North right now, (where Jan and Feb were around 600 a month with oil in a cape house) but we are still sort of North, and the heat is about 400 a month in a very small 4 room duplex, not 4 bedroom (probably under 900sq feet) I think the difference is that a lot of New England is full of older homes that have not updated their windows, which adds to the extreme heating bill...or there is old insulation etc. SO our bran new cape in Maine=the cost of this tiny place in PA!

Then I feel like it jumps right into summer here, in PA, June, July and Aug have full blast A/C all day/night and only costs us around $100-150 in electric(A/C).

SO I think $225 for a huge house like your is awesome! I'd take it!
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:36 AM
 
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Wow, that is way cheaper. I am not even very far North right now, (where Jan and Feb were around 600 a month with oil in a cape house) but we are still sort of North, and the heat is about 400 a month in a very small 4 room duplex, not 4 bedroom (probably under 900sq feet) I think the difference is that a lot of New England is full of older homes that have not updated their windows, which adds to the extreme heating bill...or there is old insulation etc. SO our bran new cape in Maine=the cost of this tiny place in PA!

Then I feel like it jumps right into summer here, in PA, June, July and Aug have full blast A/C all day/night and only costs us around $100-150 in electric(A/C).

SO I think $225 for a huge house like your is awesome! I'd take it!

I forgot to add, our heat is still pretty much on FULL blast now, and it's April. But I doubt the NC has the A/C on yet, so there is another huge difference. N/C probably only has the A/C on for 4 months or less, and we have the heat on for well over 6 months.
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:44 AM
 
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I forgot to add, our heat is still pretty much on FULL blast now, and it's April. But I doubt the NC has the A/C on yet, so there is another huge difference. N/C probably only has the A/C on for 4 months or less, and we have the heat on for well over 6 months.
Cost of utilities is definitely cheaper in NC...no doubt. A/C is on for 5 months SOLID though and parts of 2 others but its not that expensive..at least for us. Winter heating though can get quite high on cold winters and runs higher than mid summer cooling believe it or not. Nothing like up there though.
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