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Old 07-03-2012, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Several activist friends posted the link to this blog, with a breaking story about a man shot by police late last night.
Full update: A young(?) black man was murdered by police in my neighborhood tonight. - Dion, the Socialist.

The writer of the blog wasn't right there when the shooting happened, but he says he saw the body. At the time, he was saying it was a boy who was shot by the police - an unarmed, handcuffed boy, who was looking for help. That story spread far and wide, with calls of police brutality, racism, and heavy-handedness.

The media's story - and the police chief's, I watched the press conference this morning - is that the man was 27, and was running from police, was armed and reaching for his gun, unhandcuffed.

CMPD officer shoots, kills man | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper

I think the man's age and that he was running from the police are true. Everything else is up for debate. I can't trust the "eyewitnesses" because who knows who actually saw what? Did people see handcuffs? The police statement is that the guy's hands were free, though the officer was trying to restrain him.

Can the media and police spin this story very much? Won't ballistics, etc. show the position of the body? Can we trust any official story?

I am hating that there is such a huge divide between people in our city, and hating that I have NO IDEA who is telling the truth.

My thought is not to trust the criminal, and family of the criminal, and the people around them who feel disenfranchised - and there's another part of me that thinks these people are disenfranchised for a *reason*, and I should believe them BECAUSE they're against "the system".

I don't normally spend time on things like this, news items I'm powerless over - it's important that I'm present, peaceful, and happy to make my home a good one. But this seems important. People who were there are saying the shooting was unjustified. And others who were there are saying officers' and innocent lives were in danger.
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:03 PM
 
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If the paper is correct, the guy that was shot was a convicted felon and twice had been convicted of resisting arrest. If the paper is correct, the 'boy' was 28 years old. The cousin said he 'heard the police tell him to quit resisting'.

I feel awful for his family but I have learned that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
I cannot imagine being a police officer and having to put my life on the line with people that think they don't have to obey the law. I was taught to listen to a police officer and have taught my kids the same. If a police officer tells you to stop - STOP.

Where are Sharpton, Jackson and Kojo and why are they not in these neighborhoods as role models teaching young black men how to behave? Where is the outrage from our black leaders that our young black men are choosing crime instead of being productive members of society?
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Old 07-04-2012, 08:51 AM
 
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If the paper is correct, the guy that was shot was a convicted felon and twice had been convicted of resisting arrest. If the paper is correct, the 'boy' was 28 years old. The cousin said he 'heard the police tell him to quit resisting'.

I feel awful for his family but I have learned that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
I cannot imagine being a police officer and having to put my life on the line with people that think they don't have to obey the law. I was taught to listen to a police officer and have taught my kids the same. If a police officer tells you to stop - STOP.

Where are Sharpton, Jackson and Kojo and why are they not in these neighborhoods as role models teaching young black men how to behave? Where is the outrage from our black leaders that our young black men are choosing crime instead of being productive members of society?
I was with you until the "Where is Jesse and Al"

Do you really expect to see Jesse and Al in every neighborhood every night? I know its sarcasm but it gets old hearing the same line every time a black male is in the news. A better question is where are the leaders in Charlotte who know Charlotte?

I know some of them who work with young black males at UNCC and they are doing a great job with the 40 kids they get every summer. its a shame that these role models aren't getting the recognition they deserve but ringleaders don't look for fame and name recognition.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:53 AM
 
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I was with you until the "Where is Jesse and Al"

Do you really expect to see Jesse and Al in every neighborhood every night? I know its sarcasm but it gets old hearing the same line every time a black male is in the news. A better question is where are the leaders in Charlotte who know Charlotte?

I know some of them who work with young black males at UNCC and they are doing a great job with the 40 kids they get every summer. its a shame that these role models aren't getting the recognition they deserve but ringleaders don't look for fame and name recognition.
You are right Felt, and it was sarcasm. I suppose I get very tired of hearing Jesse and Al and Kojo (and those like them) encouraging racism and divisiveness when they could be helping to unify our communities. Where are the black leaders who will stand up to these agitators?

I know there are some great black role models in our city that are not getting recognition. I wish these leaders would reprimand the agitators that continue to divide us all.

It seems to me the problems have gotten worse, not better over the last 25 years. Very sad.
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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I think most of the leaders are too busy leading and have more important things to do then fight with Jesse and Al. Those 2 guys spend a lot of time on Fox and MSNBC... they were active in the civil rights movement but their time has passed.

I'm not sure if we (black males) are worse off then 25 years ago.
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:26 PM
 
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They would still cuff him AFTER being shot, being shot doesn't mean the threat was over
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:02 AM
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I'm with the popo on this one.
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