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Old 08-21-2013, 07:04 AM
 
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Well, I hope it all gets resolved soon and ole Orr goes back to work. Hopefully a solid succession plan is in place, it's time to start planning for a new airport director anyway given Orr's age.
When I saw a clip of Orr talking I got the impression he should've retired a few years ago.
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Old 11-26-2013, 10:25 AM
 
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Well, seems the whole idea of an authority is on the ropes. McCrory is coming out the closet on the issue.

Gov. Pat McCrory: City should retain Charlotte Douglas International | CharlotteObserver.com
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:47 PM
 
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Well, seems the whole idea of an authority is on the ropes. McCrory is coming out the closet on the issue.

Gov. Pat McCrory: City should retain Charlotte Douglas International | CharlotteObserver.com
thats because Jerry Orr didnt call governer for his turkey dinner

Gov just threw Jerry Orr under the bus...
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:12 PM
 
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The reason this airport grew so much was that it still is one of the lowest cost per passenger airports in the nation, and this is due to the great leadership of Jerry Orr.

Unfortunately politicians are opposite to business minded people, everybody wins when politicians stay away from interfering with business decisions. The last thing we want it is for a stupid political battle growing into a reason so the newly formed AA will pull out...
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:24 PM
 
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The reason this airport grew so much was that it still is one of the lowest cost per passenger airports in the nation, and this is due to the great leadership of Jerry Orr.

Unfortunately politicians are opposite to business minded people, everybody wins when politicians stay away from interfering with business decisions. The last thing we want it is for a stupid political battle growing into a reason so the newly formed AA will pull out...
I don't have the whole story on this but it sounded like Orr got caught up in the political game and got some bad advice when he gave his resignation.

funny/sad thing is the "small government" guys in Raleigh were the ones responsible for this...
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:34 PM
 
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The reason this airport grew so much was that it still is one of the lowest cost per passenger airports in the nation, and this is due to the great leadership of Jerry Orr.

Unfortunately politicians are opposite to business minded people, everybody wins when politicians stay away from interfering with business decisions. The last thing we want it is for a stupid political battle growing into a reason so the newly formed AA will pull out...
It is vastly myopic to think Jerry Orr alone is responsible for the success of the airport and not attribute an equal amount success to local political leadership as well. There are smart, business minded, capable and intelligent people in the local government that have supported and made Jerry's world work. Where do you think people in politics come from? Usually the business community as owner, executive, etc so claiming to separate those worlds is ridiculous.

The current model seems to work fine. Every business decision has a political slant and the two will forever be inextricably linked as to the reason why the AA was formed to control business decisions related to airport contracts, etc. Of course, the powers that be excuse or guise for creating the AA was to thwart the influence of local government leaders. Yet, those very people colluded to create an authority to assign and dictate their influence over airport decision making process.

I think they might have to swallow a little humble pie, even if the authority moves forward.
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:57 PM
 
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It is vastly myopic to think Jerry Orr alone is responsible for the success of the airport and not attribute an equal amount success to local political leadership as well. There are smart, business minded, capable and intelligent people in the local government that have supported and made Jerry's world work. Where do you think people in politics come from? Usually the business community as owner, executive, etc so claiming to separate those worlds is ridiculous.

The current model seems to work fine. Every business decision has a political slant and the two will forever be inextricably linked as to the reason why the AA was formed to control business decisions related to airport contracts, etc. Of course, the powers that be excuse or guise for creating the AA was to thwart the influence of local government leaders. Yet, those very people colluded to create an authority to assign and dictate their influence over airport decision making process.

I think they might have to swallow a little humble pie, even if the authority moves forward.
I'm surprise you don't see the antagonism between pure business and politics.

Many politicians have a law degree (with no business or leadership sense) since public speaking skills are most coveted for politicians. Others have a strong academic background, again no business or leadership acumen. Sure there are people who have business background, but once turned into politicians, to be successful they too have to play by the new survival rules.
When former business men turned politicians try to not obey the "only say what they want to hear, no interest in reality", they are not elected.

I do agree that some unsuccessful large corporation like AA, GM, some banks, etc are ruled many times by politics, and it shows. Unfortunately the result it is that we all have to chip in to save them...

Back to topic, I do hope politicians will stay away from the airport business.
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:07 PM
 
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I'm surprise you don't see the antagonism between pure business and politics.

Many politicians have a law degree (with no business or leadership sense) since public speaking skills are most coveted for politicians. Others have a strong academic background, again no business or leadership acumen. Sure there are people who have business background, but once turned into politicians, to be successful they too have to play by the new survival rules.
When former business men turned politicians try to not obey the "only say what they want to hear, no interest in reality", they are not elected.

I do agree that some unsuccessful large corporation like AA, GM, some banks, etc are ruled many times by politics, and it shows. Unfortunately the result it is that we all have to chip in to save them...

Back to topic, I do hope politicians will stay away from the airport business.
What in the world are you talking about? The airport is currently operated by city officials (politicians, appointees, etc) and managed by Jerry Orr - the politicians run it now. Politicians come from every walk of the business community, usually with successful business practices, especially those that serve locally and regionally. Even the great leader (communicator) of the 80s wasn't a business leader but was a former Hollywood actor.

Maybe you should do a little research on the background of current city leaders and city council members. You seem to think that the new airport authority isn't going to be full of people with political ties and backgrounds.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:27 PM
 
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The people who clamor about not making the airport political are the ones who turned it into one of the most partisan & most visible fights in NC being probably the #2 most discussed issues in the Charlotte mayoral campaign
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Old 10-13-2014, 01:35 PM
 
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update: Judge sides with city

Judge blocks airport commission, leaves city in control of Charlotte Douglas | CharlotteObserver.com
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