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Like overstating capacity, ignoring facilities reports, fudging transportation efficiency numbers, lying about safety studies... are those the mandates, requirements, and laws you speak of?
If you're a asking, then I'm a answering.
No. Instead they sound like conspiracy theories cooked up on facebook to me. No basis in reality
I don't see this vote as a mandate against the redistricting... Boyd well known to have supported the redistricting (she lives in Marvin and wanted "her schools" to get more room). She beat CAPS' anointed Maher and old school establishment Rape. I can't speak much to the Sides landslide, but Yercheck clearly has more issues than just the redistricting and I think that was more about his ego dealing with the BOCC than anything else.
4 brand new members on the BOE. Pigg didn't run, so only Yes voter replaced was Yercheck.
4 remaining members who voted FOR redistricting.
... and Savage - who will likely be censured.
Facilities committee majority remains the same, still run by Stewart. Only Pigg to be replaced.
I don't see anyone can be certain some drastic change is coming.
I think that's oversimplifying things, the Yerhceck ousting was significant... and so what if Savage is censured? The only thing that accomplishes is letting the voters know that the same old crew is up to the same old tricks.... and that they'll be next.
Mike, congrats. Your guys (except one) won. Good night for you.
Interesting to check out the by precinct break down. Sean won areas he was suppossed to (polling place that included Wes. Chapel or Indian Trail/Stallings) and took 13 precints. Dennis' 19 precincts look like "Old" Union County. Various areas but low on new growth and development. Leslie (20 precincts) had an interesting mix of the "new growth" areas and Monroe and Marshville (looks like she really owned the Af-Am vote).
Like Mikey said, here is the money...A certain % has to be spent on federal mandates, etc (you can't move it elsewhere). Now here is the remainder...how will the new board deliver on all the promises without raising taxes (which I am definitely NOT for). How do you do it economically and still please your supporters. They already are saying they want the lines redrawn first thing. I hope they can figure a way. Good luck.
Also...I hope someone will still push forward on the advanced/high-tech manufacturing courses that was Yercheck's pet project. Lots of kids in this county could use those skills.
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How do you do it economically and still please your supporters. They already are saying they want the lines redrawn first thing. I hope they can figure a way. Good luck.
Also...I hope someone will still push forward on the advanced/high-tech manufacturing courses that was Yercheck's pet project. Lots of kids in this county could use those skills.
NTES will be capped, right? And as we all learned last year, capping is a trigger for redistricting. So, whether or not it is/was the old board or the new board the redistricting discussion was going to come up again and lines were going to have to be redrawn. We all know the shortcomings of last years process so no need to rehash them but any discomfort and/or $'s associated with another reassignment lays at the feet of the sitting board.
100% agree with you on the advanced/high-tech manufacturing courses.
I think that's oversimplifying things, the Yerhceck ousting was significant... and so what if Savage is censured? The only thing that accomplishes is letting the voters know that the same old crew is up to the same old tricks.... and that they'll be next.
I think you detest Yercheck so much it's blinding you a bit. Why do you think that vote has everything to do with the redistricting and couldn't also be about how he handled the BOCC relationship and just that he was the "face" as chairman during a terrible time in BOE history?
You truly believe Stewart cares that you think he'll "be next"?
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NTES will be capped, right? And as we all learned last year, capping is a trigger for redistricting. So, whether or not it is/was the old board or the new board the redistricting discussion was going to come up again and lines were going to have to be redrawn. We all know the shortcomings of last years process so no need to rehash them but any discomfort and/or $'s associated with another reassignment lays at the feet of the sitting board.
100% agree with you on the advanced/high-tech manufacturing courses.
I was with you on this thought earlier - cap triggers the whole redistricting process again. But I feel like Sunshine when I have to remind you to watch what they do - not what they say. The facilities committee drives this and has already come up with a recommendation to address the New Town cap - leave it as is and redistrict Phase 2 and 3 of Lawson into a split feeder. Looks like they're voting on this in tomorrow's meeting. So as of right now I don't see any new lines to be drawn.
Keep the "new board" in context... 4 members who approved the last plan are still there.
I think you detest Yercheck so much it's blinding you a bit. Why do you think that vote has everything to do with the redistricting and couldn't also be about how he handled the BOCC relationship and just that he was the "face" as chairman during a terrible time in BOE history?
I totally agree with you on the idea that Yercheck getting the boot wasn't related to one specific thing, rather it was a convergence of many things... His tyranny was wide, deep and did not discriminate.
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I was with you on this thought earlier - cap triggers the whole redistricting process again. But I feel like Sunshine when I have to remind you to watch what they do - not what they say. The facilities committee drives this and has already come up with a recommendation to address the New Town cap - leave it as is and redistrict Phase 2 and 3 of Lawson into a split feeder. Looks like they're voting on this in tomorrow's meeting. So as of right now I don't see any new lines to be drawn.
You can't reassign portions of Lawson without redrawing lines. (isn't that an address based cap?, wasn't that deemed illegal by counsel?)
If 1/2 of Lawson goes to Waxhaw so be it. But wasn't it just last year that the Millbridge redshirts showed up and the BOE agreed to not split the neighborhood. Now all of a sudden it's ok? What's changed? Eerily similar to "no MCRs for you" while other schools are loaded up. They aren't fooling anyone anymore.
You can't reassign portions of Lawson without redrawing lines. (isn't that an address based cap?, wasn't that deemed illegal by counsel?)
If 1/2 of Lawson goes to Waxhaw so be it. But wasn't it just last year that the Millbridge redshirts showed up and the BOE agreed to not split the neighborhood. Now all of a sudden it's ok? What's changed? Eerily similar to "no MCRs for you" while other schools are loaded up. They aren't fooling anyone anymore.
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You're overlapping subjects here... "neighborhood schools" are a policy decision, not a legal one. Splitting neighborhoods could introduce transportation efficiency issues which could impact funding from the state, so that's a consideration. But, beyond that they can split a neighborhood - it isn't illegal. Cutting a neighborhood in logical chunks by streets (or phases) is not some convoluted address based assignment that can become a logistical nightmare later. The address is the assignment.
They said they wanted to eliminate split-feeders and the Lawson change ignores that. They said lots of things - but none of them are legally binding. They are ballot box issues if you decide you want to hold them to it.
You have to break away from this "fooling anyone anymore" stuff because it invalidates your arguments as if you believe there is some type of conspiracy here. They're politicians for gripes sake!
Merrill didn't sweep District 4. Several of the Piedmont precincts went for Carver. Porter Ridge went for Merrill. Several precincts were extremely close. I'd say the anti-redistricting voters turned out for Merrill.
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