Affordable Apartment Rent In Charlotte (McDonald: low income, sales, renter)

[NDL]

Originally Posted by 28079

Cost of housing reflect market demand, again it is supply and demand. So since the prices are high, obviously there are plenty of renters available. No renters demand, price would drop.

As you mentioned there is a huge need for hands-on type carriers (mechanics, plumbers, electricians, etc) who could pay pretty good when compared to most "college jobs". There is nothing stopping people to start their own business (start from offering grill cleaning, yard work, etc) without upfront investment.

I think we also have a huge entitlement problem, easier to "deserve it" while doing nothing for it...

We're making two different arguments. I don't disagree that a good number of folks have an entitlement attitude, but again, this does nothing to solve the problem for hard working folks who're underpaid.

That someone can lift their station in life by becoming self employed is a given, but this reality won't help fill positions in garbage collection, bus driver positions, etc.

People can shrug their shoulders about issues that are seemingly insignificant, while the reality is that few consider the ramifications of their choices.

Half of US wage earners made less than 30k a year:

Everyone In America Is Even More Broke Than You Think | HuffPost

"Get retrained"

"Get a better job"

That still doesn't solve the problem of filling necessary positions.

Do you want Charlotte to lower the bar of who qualifies to become a police officer? Do you want someone with questionable scruples or someone who's physically unfit, to patrol the streets? Here's a reality that many cities face:

Police Face Severe Shortage of Recruits - ABC News

When local residents won't work for substandard wages, and bus driver positions are filled by folks who might not otherwise be qualified, are you content with the results?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9271624

The above consequences are real, and ignoring them won't make them go away.

Up until recently, Charlotte's cost of living was below, maybe even well below, average. As Charlotte's cost of living rises, so will these issues rise to the surface.

[westcoastbabe]

TO THE POSTER'S


SPOKEN LIKE PEOPLE WHO OWN THEIR HOMES IN WELL ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS WITH NO REGARD for people who are striving for home ownership.

[Eristic1]

[quote=NDL;49430737] "Get retrained" "Get a better job" That still doesn't solve the problem of filling necessary positions.

Well it very well may. If there's a lack of plumbers and someone decides they want to make more than $8.50/hr as a barista...they might choose plumbing. If there is a lack of plumbers, the wages will get pushed up. For jobs where there is a need, the wages are forced up to entice people into that occupation...ultimately filling necessary positions.

[quote=NDL;49430737]Do you want Charlotte to lower the bar of who qualifies to become a police officer? Do you want someone with questionable scruples or someone who's physically unfit, to patrol the streets?

This one is a little different than the typical supply/demand argument because police suffer from a hugely negative stereotype in many communities, as well as being inherently dangerous if you're not a cop in a rich boring area.

This should work to dissuade people from the job, constraining supply, pushing wages up. However there is a part of the population that sees incredible advantages to being a cop...superiority (perceived and actual) over civilians, and the ability to mete out justice at their discretion. These forces act to select people, whose personalites don't fit the job, into the profession. It's not their fault, just that the screening methods need to be better and I think this has been acknowledged.

[quote=NDL;49430737]When local residents won't work for substandard wages, and bus driver positions are filled by folks who might not otherwise be qualified, are you content with the results?

If the wages are substandard, no one will accept the job and the position will remain unfilled. If someone is taking the position, they are accepting the wages as appropriate. And sure this puts less-than-perfect job candidates into certain jobs because better candidates can compete for more desirable jobs. But most bus drivers do a fine job...if they didn't the job criteria would change and the job would have to pay more to attract "better" candidates.

[Eristic1]

Originally Posted by westcoastbabe

TO THE POSTER'S


SPOKEN LIKE PEOPLE WHO OWN THEIR HOMES IN WELL ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS WITH NO REGARD for people who are striving for home ownership.

I think there's some truth to this. I think people who've put in the work and made sacrifices to be able to afford to live in a well-established (presumably you mean 'desirable') neighborhood are more aware what it takes.

I'd imagine a barista that lives with two roommates are less likely to understand how their choices affect their inability to secure home-ownership.

[GoPhils]

I can see wanting better access to "affordable" safe housing, but you lost me at "deserving" "nice" housing westcoastbabe.

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by GoPhils

I can see wanting better access to "affordable" safe housing, but you lost me at "deserving" "nice" housing westcoastbabe.

Really, I got what she meant by nice safe/affordable housing. It's not uncommon for affordable housing in safe areas to be on the dumpy side. You'd think that builders would address the lack of housing for that market segment. It would make sense. It's not a tiny segment. Since there's a requirement to provide a number of section 8 units in all apartment complexes, builders should be aiming more construction at the people who would be happy with an apartment rather than a luxury apartment.

[CLT4]

Originally Posted by Marv95

Is there a specific location or scattered about? Because on craigslist and others I'm having trouble finding studios for under $700 in city limits let alone a 1BR.

Scattered about the city. Some complexes to check out:

Lakeside: 8061 Woodscape Dr, Charlotte, NC 28212
Runaway Bay: 8242 Runaway Bay Dr, Charlotte, NC 28212
Afton House: 5139-5148 Elder Ave, Charlotte, NC 28205
Pressley Ridge: 1210 Pressley Rd, Charlotte, NC 28217
Pleasant View: 8225 Pence Rd, Charlotte, NC 28215
The Oasis at Regal Oaks: 6701 English Hills Dr, Charlotte, NC 28212
The Flats at Mallard Creek: 601 E Mallard Creek Church Rd, Charlotte, NC 28262

etc.....

[28079]

Originally Posted by westcoastbabe

TO THE POSTER'S


SPOKEN LIKE PEOPLE WHO OWN THEIR HOMES IN WELL ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS WITH NO REGARD for people who are striving for home ownership.

who would you rather take advice from, people that have a proven solution for your problem (been there) or the ones that have same issue?

[NDL]

Originally Posted by Eristic1

If the wages are substandard, no one will accept the job and the position will remain unfilled. If someone is taking the position, they are accepting the wages as appropriate. And sure this puts less-than-perfect job candidates into certain jobs because better candidates can compete for more desirable jobs. But most bus drivers do a fine job...if they didn't the job criteria would change and the job would have to pay more to attract "better" candidates.

This doesn't answer the question that I raised.

When an immigrant population is willing to do a job for below market wages, they artificially drive down wages. You can't say that it's always been this way, as instruments like H1B work visa's are more of a recent phenomenon.

Notice: I am not anti immigrant, as my Paternal Grandparents' were immigrants, and I have immigrants as friends. But I am against corporate loopholes that oppress both the native born, and immigrant, alike.

Charlotte's saving grace was it's below average cost of living. As the cost of Charlotte's housing increases, there will come the increased problem of staffing certain jobs.

[NDL]

Originally Posted by westcoastbabe

SPOKEN LIKE PEOPLE WHO OWN THEIR HOMES IN WELL ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS WITH NO REGARD for people who are striving for home ownership.

What do you expect from people?

Is there no poster on the forum that hasn't suffered some form of economic hardship, at some point in their lives?