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Old 05-18-2013, 10:47 AM
 
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So we all know that within the past couple of years, several companies have chosen to locate in York (Fort Mill) and Lancaster (Indian Land) counties, sometimes making the move from Mecklenburg County. But why York and Lancaster? What built-in advantages do they have over other counties in the region like Union, Cabarrus, Gaston, etc.? Is it just one main reason or do things like the colleges/universities (Winthrop, USC-Lancaster, York Tech, etc.), Catawba River, the greenway, museums, etc. in those counties give them a huge competitive edge over the other surrounding counties and make them much more attractive to companies wanting to set up shop in the region?
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Old 05-18-2013, 11:31 AM
 
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So we all know that within the past couple of years, several companies have chosen to locate in York (Fort Mill) and Lancaster (Indian Land) counties, sometimes making the move from Mecklenburg County. But why York and Lancaster? What built-in advantages do they have over other counties in the region like Union, Cabarrus, Gaston, etc.? Is it just one main reason or do things like the colleges/universities (Winthrop, USC-Lancaster, York Tech, etc.), Catawba River, the greenway, museums, etc. in those counties give them a huge competitive edge over the other surrounding counties and make them much more attractive to companies wanting to set up shop in the region?
Cleveland & Gaston got a lot, but since the teabaggers took over & McCrory will sign anything that they can conjure up that has nothing to do with jobs, it's ground to a halt, except things that have been in the pipeline since Bev was in office. This is not good.

My take on it is that it's different companies looking for different things.
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Old 05-18-2013, 11:38 AM
 
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Cleveland & Gaston got a lot, but since the teabaggers took over & McCrory will sign anything that they can conjure up that has nothing to do with jobs, it's ground to a halt, except things that have been in the pipeline since Bev was in office. This is not good.

My take on it is that it's different companies looking for different things.
Well I'm not just talking about lately, but over the course of the past couple of years: Continental Tire NA headquarters, INSP, Red Ventures, Shutterfly (more recently), etc. They also tend to be white-collar headquarters operations as opposed to manufacturing outfits. You have some companies that move directly to Fort Mill and Indian Land, but you have just as many or more that make the move from Charlotte to Fort Mill and Indian Land. Why mostly those towns and not Belmont, Concord, Indian Trail, Weddington, Waxhaw, etc.?
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Old 05-18-2013, 11:54 AM
 
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Well I'm not just talking about lately, but over the course of the past couple of years: Continental Tire NA headquarters, INSP, Red Ventures, Shutterfly (more recently), etc. They also tend to be white-collar headquarters operations as opposed to manufacturing outfits. You have some companies that move directly to Fort Mill and Indian Land, but you have just as many or more that make the move from Charlotte to Fort Mill and Indian Land. Why mostly those towns and not Belmont, Concord, Indian Trail, Weddington, Waxhaw, etc.?
I'm not sure where some of those companies would go in Belmont. Their thing seems to be not aimed at that. Gaston puts most stuff into Gastonia. They got a couple of French auto-related plastics companies that the Upstate bid on. Gastonia has some empty land & a ton of empty mills & mill-related buildings.

Businesses in Gastonia are easy for most people to get to & helps to rebuild the city.

Cleveland, Lincoln, & Gaston have each gotten 2 automotive-related plants that have skipped Cherokee & didn't go to Greenville or Spartanburg.
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:11 PM
 
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I'm not sure where some of those companies would go in Belmont. Their thing seems to be not aimed at that. Gaston puts most stuff into Gastonia. They got a couple of French auto-related plastics companies that the Upstate bid on. Gastonia has some empty land & a ton of empty mills & mill-related buildings.

Businesses in Gastonia are easy for most people to get to & helps to rebuild the city.

Cleveland, Lincoln, & Gaston have each gotten 2 automotive-related plants that have skipped Cherokee & didn't go to Greenville or Spartanburg.
Well I'm not really talking about other counties in SC, just the ones in the Charlotte metro, namely York and Lancaster. They are more successful at attracting more corporate headquarters, white-collar, higher-wage operations, sometimes just from across the state line in Mecklenburg, than Gaston, Union, and Cabarrus counties. What is/are the major reason(s) for that?
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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Majority of things in SC (taxes, gas) are cheaper in SC compared to NC. Just being over the line because of that could persuade a company to relocate there.

Those counties are also growing rapidly, so maybe that has something to do with it.

You also have to consider all of the companies that are still relocating to Charlotte and other areas of the metro as well. I don't think York and Lancaster are "more successful."
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:48 PM
 
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Well I'm not really talking about other counties in SC, just the ones in the Charlotte metro, namely York and Lancaster. They are more successful at attracting more corporate headquarters, white-collar, higher-wage operations, sometimes just from across the state line in Mecklenburg, than Gaston, Union, and Cabarrus counties. What is/are the major reason(s) for that?
Well. . . some would tell you lower taxes in SC, but the fact that the 3 western counties got plants that Upstate would have wanted & went after some of them & they skipped over Cherokee kills that arguement. That's why I dragged Cherokee into it

There have been white collar jobs brought into Gaston & Cleveland. I don't know for sure about Lincoln.

The hoopla out here is for blue collar jobs. There are a lot of long-term unemployed people who need them &, frankly, a lot of white collar people will take them. They pay better than retail.

An urgent care/clinic just opened in Kings Mountain. Those are white collar jobs. The only reason that the data centers got any press at all was that they are clueless about Kings Mountain & they couldn't believe that that much money was coming into the town.

They don't cover Gastonia except as Camden Jr., & they only cover idiotic stories about Kings Mountain.
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:57 PM
 
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Well. . . some would tell you lower taxes in SC, but the fact that the 3 western counties got plants that Upstate would have wanted & went after some of them & they skipped over Cherokee kills that arguement. That's why I dragged Cherokee into it
But York and Lancaster counties weren't on their radar. So this is irrelevant to the subject at hand as I'm specifically asking about those counties in relation to the other counties in metro Charlotte on the NC side, specifically Gaston, Union, Cabarrus, etc. Cherokee and the Upstate are non-factors in this discussion.

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There have been white collar jobs brought into Gaston & Cleveland.
Exactly what? Anything on the level of Red Ventures, Continental, Shutterfly, etc.?
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Old 05-18-2013, 01:16 PM
 
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Easy answers:

-SC leaves businesses alone
-SC is low cost
-SC taxes are a less than NC

This is very attractive to a business wishing to leave high cost, high tax, high control, "progressive socialist" states.
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Old 05-18-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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But York and Lancaster counties weren't on their radar. So this is irrelevant to the subject at hand as I'm specifically asking about those counties in relation to the other counties in metro Charlotte on the NC side, specifically Gaston, Union, Cabarrus, etc. Cherokee and the Upstate are non-factors in this discussion.



Exactly what? Anything on the level of Red Ventures, Continental, Shutterfly, etc.?
Does the fact that a branch of Levine's Children's hospital opened in Gastonia count for you?

If you want to discount what I'm saying, go ahead. I have other things to do. I told you that the press out here is for blue collar & tech, not white collar. They don't even cover Shelby. CMC bought all of the county-owned medical facilities in Cleveland County. CMC has been building medical-related facilities in Shelby for about 3 years.

All they do is send out a reporter to get a good laugh if a train hits a truck in Kings Mountain. They covered the runaway llama who kicked a sheriff's car out in the county & WCNC sent a cameraman, not a reporter, to show the country road on the outskirts of Kings Mountain, when the AT&T announcement was made & then showed a county commissioner saying, yes we do have people who can work in data centers. The media doesn't give proper coverage outside of where they feel like sending people & are mostly clueless about most of the region.

You brought Gaston into it & with etc. brought Cleveland into it.
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