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Old 01-01-2024, 11:37 AM
 
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Almost every new platform or generation has been problematic the first year, some extending into the second year before the bugs were out. There were many first year recalls for the 2003 Jeep Liberty, 2012 Tesla, 2013 Ford Escape, and 2020 Jeep Gladiator.
Yes, but this isn't a new platform. It's over two years old now at this point. They might be specific problems with the Blazer EV, but the platform isn't anything new. You'd expect major issues to be worked out by now.
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Old 01-01-2024, 11:51 AM
 
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Yes, but this isn't a new platform. It's over two years old now at this point. They might be specific problems with the Blazer EV, but the platform isn't anything new. You'd expect major issues to be worked out by now.
Yes, and their were issues with the Lyriq as well. If people hear that there are software/infotainment issues, in today's EVs, that can interfere with a lot more than the stereo. A great many important functions are controlled through menus and soft buttons accessed through that main screen, and if it goes blank, you can't use any of that. Charging itself is controlled via software too, and that was one of the failures that the Motor Trend long term Blazer had soon after delivery.

GM may work all this out. But in the case of VW, who has just as many resources as GM and they sell a lot more EVs too - VW spent years trying to really get through all the issues and the last I read, had acquired a young Chinese tech company to take the problem off their hands. If your engineers have written hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of lines of code, and the architecture of that code isn't *very* sound, you've got a nightmare on your hands. Software is essentially a machine, but big programs are far more complex than any physical machine - and if the architects are in over their head, they'll just make a mess of things. VW found that they had made a mess that was so big that they couldn't fix it.

I don't think it's clear yet how big the issues are with Ultium, but let's hope it's nowhere near as bad as the issues were at VW.

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Old 01-03-2024, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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"The Chevy Blazer EV Isn't Alone. GM Owners Say The Ultium Cars Are A Hot Mess"
https://insideevs.com/news/702126/ul...orm-owners-gm/

Honda is collaborating with GM to bring out two EVs based on the Ultium platform and built in a GM plant - a CUV named the Honda Prologue and another named the Acura ZDX. If I were Honda, I'd be paying real close attention to GM's troubles - if they can't straighten it out soon, maybe Honda wants to cancel these Honda & Acura badged GMs and just cut their losses.
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Old 02-01-2024, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Well, GM is trying to improve the rigor of their software engineering unit, which can only be good, although hopefully the horse is not already out of the barn. If you already have 1 million lines of spaghetti code that's a hopeless mess, then it's a little late to get serious about software engineering. Still no start date communicated for them to restart Balzer production.

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“Among several important organizational realignments, we established a software quality division within the software and services team that has been performing a retrospective on the Blazer EV and has improved the current software development and test processes across the enterprise,” Barra continued. “Outcomes of this activity are getting applied to all programs going forward, and they include improved standardization of the software development and release process, increased focus on test automation at the vehicle level, and additional quality gates and metrics for software at the vehicle level.”
https://gmauthority.com/blog/2024/01...ftware-issues/
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Old 02-14-2024, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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https://insideevs.com/news/708358/gm...-availability/

GM announced pricing Equinox EV. Unlike the $16k markup on the Broken, I mean Blazer, EV it has a more modest 5k markup and will start at 35k.
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Old 02-14-2024, 05:55 PM
 
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https://insideevs.com/news/708358/gm...-availability/

GM announced pricing Equinox EV. Unlike the $16k markup on the Broken, I mean Blazer, EV it has a more modest 5k markup and will start at 35k.
That sounds like a great price - I think that undercuts all the competition offering similar size/capabilities vehicles.
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Old 02-24-2024, 01:20 AM
 
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Well, this Blazer production line has been down for about 2 months now. Not a lot of information coming out of GM about the problems found or a fix yet. You can't be confident about interpreting the absence of information, but if the development team had the problem fully characterized and a fix underway, you'd expect there to more information communicated out to the public, so if I had to bet, I'd say they're probably still digging. If Mary Barra isn't all over this, she should be.
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Old 02-24-2024, 02:01 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Edmunds has an update on their long-term Blazer EV they purchased. It's quite a saga, but Chevy seems to have gotten it to a state where it should be working again.
https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/our...lly-fixed.html

Edmunds has apparently gotten some inside info that "But the major software update that will lift the stop-sale is still up to three months away from being deployed. That places the Blazer EV ... relaunch? ... sometime before the end of May"
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Old 02-25-2024, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Edmunds has an update on their long-term Blazer EV they purchased. It's quite a saga, but Chevy seems to have gotten it to a state where it should be working again.
https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/our...lly-fixed.html

Edmunds has apparently gotten some inside info that "But the major software update that will lift the stop-sale is still up to three months away from being deployed. That places the Blazer EV ... relaunch? ... sometime before the end of May"
Chevy BLemon, whatta show.

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/our...lly-fixed.html

Update - much sooner than end of May but don't ask when.
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