View Poll Results: Do you consider Northwest Indiana a part of Chicagoland?
Yes
45 72.58%
No
16 25.81%
Other - please explain
1 1.61%
08-15-2013, 07:16 PM
Location: the Great Lakes states
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Originally Posted by
jmjh
Growing up in northwest Indiana, I knew much more about Chicago news than Indiana news. I rooted for Chicago sports teams, not teams from Indianapolis. I grew up watching Chicago TV. When we went to a zoo, a museum, or a concert, those in Chicago were the easiest to reach. When we went to an airport, we flew out of Midway or O'Hare. From our lakefront, we could see the Chicago skyline better than you can see it from Highland Park, and we could get to the center of Chicago as fast as anyone from Evanston. For work as well as play, many of us commute to Chicago daily. In other words, we are a part of Chicagoland. Even though there is an arbitrary line drawn on a map which puts us in a different state, we are as much a part of the Chicago community as anyone from the Illinois suburbs...and most of us are happy to be a part of that community.
This really says it all. However, I also agree with the poster who discussed the isolationist mentality and exurban characteristics in some areas of NWI, like Valpo. That is true. However, Chicago is still the nerve center, whether people in Valpo like it or not.
09-25-2013, 10:09 PM
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I think some parts qualify as part of the Chicago metro area but I wouldn't call them suburbs.
09-25-2013, 11:02 PM
Location: Not where you ever lived
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The only Chicago suburbs are in Cook County. This statement has absolutely nothing to do with media advertisers who call everything within 90 miles of Union Station *Chicagoland*. It also bears no relationship to the U.S. Census Bureau that declares every living being within 50 miles of the City of Chicago as part of one giant Metropolitan Statistical Area. In theory the outiers who have never set foot in Cook County or Chicago allegedly shop, play, work or go to school in the City of Chicago. The latter has more to do with contrived population density than it does with common sense.
09-26-2013, 12:09 AM
Location: South Chicagoland
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PILMAN
I think some parts qualify as part of the Chicago metro area but I wouldn't call them suburbs.
Too bad you're objectively wrong. Places like Highland, Indiana are just as much suburbs as Naperville. They're closer to the city too. Period. End of discussion..
09-26-2013, 08:35 AM
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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There is more interconnectivity than you might think
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linicx
The only Chicago suburbs are in Cook County. This statement has absolutely nothing to do with media advertisers who call everything within 90 miles of Union Station *Chicagoland*. It also bears no relationship to the U.S. Census Bureau that declares every living being within 50 miles of the City of Chicago as part of one giant Metropolitan Statistical Area. In theory the outiers who have never set foot in Cook County or Chicago allegedly shop, play, work or go to school in the City of Chicago. The latter has more to do with contrived population density than it does with common sense.
From an economical sense, the current MSA makes sense. The intermodal freight facilities in Plano or Shorewood, would not be there if it weren't for businesses inside Cook County-your suggestion for MSA border. Nor would collar counties like Lake, IN, Lake, IL, DuPage and Will have grown as much without the economic engine of Chicago and Cook Co.
09-27-2013, 01:38 AM
Location: South Chicagoland
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cubssoxfan
From an economical sense, the current MSA makes sense. The intermodal freight facilities in Plano or Shorewood, would not be there if it weren't for businesses inside Cook County-your suggestion for MSA border. Nor would collar counties like Lake, IN, Lake, IL, DuPage and Will have grown as much without the economic engine of Chicago and Cook Co.
It's ironic because there's only one collar county that actually touches the city. It's Lake County, Indiana..
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linicx
In theory the outiers who have never set foot in Cook County or Chicago allegedly shop, play, work or go to school in the City of Chicago.
Are you suggesting that this is common for people who live in collar counties? Um no.
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10-01-2013, 11:48 AM
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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PILMAN
I think some parts qualify as part of the Chicago metro area but I wouldn't call them suburbs.
Well, that's why this thread was started. As Ursa216 stated these NWI communities are just as much suburbs of Chicago as Naperville, Orland Park or Deerfield. Like it or not!
10-01-2013, 11:52 AM
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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urza216
It's ironic because there's only one collar county that actually touches the city. It's Lake County, Indiana..
Agree with you
Can't believe the quote "the only Chicago suburbs are the ones in Cook County"!
10-01-2013, 12:13 PM
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WildWestDude
Agree with you
Can't believe the quote "the only Chicago suburbs are the ones in Cook County"!
Yeah the "only Cook County" comment was....interesting. You know, because Hinsdale and Elmhurst certainly should not be considered Chicago suburbs! Yet, South Barrington is because it's in Cook County? Hmmmmm
10-01-2013, 11:22 PM
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Well, that's why this thread was started. As Ursa216 stated these NWI communities are just as much suburbs of Chicago as Naperville, Orland Park or Deerfield. Like it or not!
For metro statistic purposes they are considered part of the greater Chicago Metropolitan Area, but in terms of being actual suburbs by official title, they are not. Cook County is made up of villages and are considered officially as suburbs of Chicago. Surround Dupage, and Lake County can be considered suburbs but they are outside of Cook County which means that their courts, jails, LEO, hospital services service those specific counties.
Kenosha and Northwest Indiana may have either former Chicagoans or Suburbanites in those areas or many individuals who transit to those areas but they aren't suburbs of Chicago, they are their own cities in their own county and state like Baltimore, Maryland and Washington, DC or New Jersey and New York.
Proximity doesn't define what is a suburb or part of Chicago, city limits and state lines do, legally lake and porter county are under Indiana jurisdiction.
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Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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