05-11-2013, 01:37 AM
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I commute from Arlington Heights (Rand/AH Road) to downtown Chicago (Lake/Wabash) I want to know if there is another way to commute that is more cost-effective, involving either less driving, a quicker commute, or less money.
For the last five months, I've been commuting to the Rosemont Blue Line Station, and it takes me, in total, one hour and thirty minutes one-way . I drive (30 m), then subway (40 m), then walk (10 m) to my office. It costs me anywhere from $240 (parking in a free lot near Blue Line Rosemont, but extra walk) to $390 (paying at Blue Line Rosemont lot). How did I calculate these numbers? These figures account for driving (~12 cents/mile with my MPGs), possible parking (5), and CTA costs (round trip 4.5); this figure also accounts for 30 days of working because I am a teacher, so I have thirty classes. I expect these costs to be the minimum, since I'll obviously come in for meetings, ceremonies, etc. outside of my normal class days.
Below I made possible commutes and I would like your opinions on them. I gave up analyzing the costs until I could hear some advice or travel tips from anyone. Thanks.
Starting point: Rand/AH Road
Ending point: Lake/Wabash
Option A: current commute (drive to Rosemont, subway to Clark/Lake, walk to Lake/Wabash)
Option B: drive to Skokie Yellow Line, subway to Chicago, possible walk
Option C: drive to Linden Purple Line, subway to Chicago, possible walk
Option D: drive to Arlington Park Race Track, Metra to Chicago, bus? walk to Green/Pink Line at Clinton?
Option E: drive to Arlington downtown, Metra to Chicago, bus? walk to Green/Pink Line at Clinton?
Option F: drive to Mt. Prospect, Metra to Chicago, bus? walk to Green Line at Clinton/Lake?
Option G: magic carpet
Option A: pro - simple, have done it before, known costs; con - mileage on car, expensive long-run parking (5)
Option B: pro - cheaper parking (4) if needed, access to express purple line; con - mileage on car, I miss out on the express hours
Option C: pro - cheaper parking (4) if needed (or 80 monthly pass also), access to express purple line; con - mileage on car, I miss out on the express hours
Option D: pro - less driving, cheaper parking, more comfortable ride; con - Ogilvie rather far from Lake/Wabash, possibly longer commute, lots fill fast
Option E: pro - same as above
Option F: pro - pro: cheaper train rate due to distance; same as above
Option G: pro - no driving, no expenses except initial purchase; con - open to elements, unsafe, initial purchase may be expensive
PHEW! I know this is long and quite detailed and if you read this far, I appreciate it; I'd be grateful for any help. As a part-time teacher, I feel a lot of my pay is going to just traveling; I'd like to explore my options and try a new thing. This "new" commute will help me see what's better for the summer school session, which I'll be in Chicago from 9 am to 2 pm (so commute times will be obviously before and after that). I know I gave a lot of information (not just about me, probably too much) but I was getting rather fed up with my entire commute overall.
Questions I have:
Is Metra any faster than the ~ 40 minutes I spend on the Blue line from Rosemont?
Would morning commute from AH to Skokie or Linden Station be longer than 30 mins?*
Is parking difficult to find at the above stations in the morning? (I hear horror stories about Naperville, and that lots fill by 8 am elsewhere)
How would you get from Ogilvie to Lake/Wabash? (which bus, like 124, 20, etc.? Green/Pink Line? magic carpet?)
Is Purple Line express actually fast and "express"?
Is free parking around Skokie or Linden Station hard to find? (I am willing to pay, but I'd rather not)
Should I get a Turkish or Kashmiri carpet?
* - I know on weekends, the drive to Skokie takes about 30 to 35 minutes using Palatine/Waukegan or highway/Dempster. I cannot say I've driven to Skokie or Linden during the weekdays.
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05-11-2013, 02:16 AM
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I love Metra.
Faster (like 41 minutes on best express train)
Union Pacific / Northwest (UP-NW) Schedule
Relatively cheap ($10.50 a day or less)
Ogilvie transportation center is super easy walk to Lake and Wabash.
Comfort level is much better than CTA.
Parking at Arlington Race track stop is plentiful. No AM races!
I really doubt that any commute that involves driving to a "midpoint" El line could ever really be time efficient -- every traffic light that you hit makes it so slow compared to be on any express train that it would be like adding extra stops
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05-11-2013, 06:16 AM
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You are blessed in having so many options. Beats working in Woodridge! Metra is a good fast option. Present fare $150 a month. I think parking is $2 a day. How athletic are you? Biking to the station eliminates parking fees. Can't help you out on carpets, though.
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05-13-2013, 12:32 AM
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Thanks for the replies.
Chet: You're not the first to tout Metra, in fact my friend took it for a while when she worked downtown. I guess I'll have to try it, since it really does cut back on my driving times by 90%; however, the less time I spend driving, the more time I spend getting from Ogilvie to Lake/Wabash, though I wonder if it really will be more time since the Green/Pink line (or bus?) seem close and convenient. This will take an experiment and trial and error to verify.
Pvande: You're right, the options are bountiful yet can be overwhelming, analogous to a quality vs. quantity problem. In this case, the quantity is there, but what quality and value do I get from each option? As to your question, I am fairly athletic so biking will be considered, now to get a bike actually... (I sold mine in college) I hesitate to do this though, because of the oppressive heat and humidity and my body's lack of any useful AC. By the time I walk into class, I'll be disgusting; however, trial and error first.
05-13-2013, 07:47 AM
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I would also take Metra. I used to take the blue line everyday and after moving now I take Metra. I will never go back to a CTA commute if I can avoid it. Metra is much more comfortable and you don't have to worry about someone stealing your purse/laptop/iphone. Plus, the less I have to drive, the better. Driving is much more stressful than sitting on the train with a book is.
05-13-2013, 08:58 AM
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I assume you are walking to Harold Washington College. it is a very pleasant stroll from Oglivie Transportation Center. There is an enclosed walkways that will have you mostly walking "downhill" in the AM toward Randolph when you exit on the north end of Riverside Plaza it is under 7/10th of mile. The google estimate is 15 minutes of walking and honestly unless you have physical limitations you can make shave at least 3 minutes off that...
I would take Randolph to State so that you are not walking under the Wabash El and yes, the Lake St is quieter :
W Randolph St to N Wabash Ave & E Lake St, Chicago, IL 60601 - Google Maps
05-13-2013, 01:24 PM
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I am going to second (third? fourth?) the suggestion for Metra. I am at Olive & AH Road, I park in the lot on Vail St. just west of the library ($1.50/day), take the 7:16a train in (arrives early, usually 7:52) and I walk all the way to Monroe & Michigan. That takes me 75 minutes total, relatively stress free and as long as you're dressed appropriately the walking is a nice start/end to your day (there is the occassionally rainy/windy day, but really not very often).
One advantage I see of Metra over CTA is that more often than not you can find a seat on Metra and it's relatively easy to continue working if needed, which I find more difficult on the El. (Plus the added bonus of quiet cars during rush hour!).
05-13-2013, 01:49 PM
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To the OP, can you run the numbers for options D, E, and F, assuming you will walk from Ogilvie to Lake/Wabash? I would like to see how much this improves things for you, in terms of cost and time.
Also, I'm not sure why you used 12c/mile for the driving portion of your commute - that seems way too low. And even if you were to totally eliminate the driving, you still would own the car and have some fixed costs.
05-13-2013, 04:33 PM
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Seems that one option which is conspicuously absent is just driving all the way. Depending on your hours, this has the potential to be a lot faster. The Ohio feeder will take you right to Wabash...
05-14-2013, 09:39 AM
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Seems that one option which is conspicuously absent is just driving all the way. Depending on your hours, this has the potential to be a lot faster. The Ohio feeder will take you right to Wabash...
My brother and DW much prefer Metra to driving. Brother used to drive but he found that the inconvenience of being on their time table was far surpassed by being able to make use of the commuting time by reading relaxing or catching up on work. Impossible to do that while driving.
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People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)