08-09-2013, 05:58 AM
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There are a LOT of highly ranked schools in area so if it were me I would research schools that specialize in special needs as I would imagine some would be better able to handle this than others.
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08-09-2013, 06:49 AM
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I have no confidence in sites that any shmoe can "rate" a school as wonderful / terrible. When it comes to "special needs" I really don't know if there are means of objectively measuring which schools are a better choice as there is no objective way to know where the kids start / end up.
08-09-2013, 07:04 AM
Location: Downers Grove
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chet everett
I have no confidence in sites that any shmoe can "rate" a school as wonderful / terrible. When it comes to "special needs" I really don't know if there are means of objectively measuring which schools are a better choice as there is no objective way to know where the kids start / end up.
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article I linked to doesn't attempt to do that - it merely explains the options a parent has available with regard to children with special needs. Not sure if that site actually rates schools ability to serve special needs but if I did I certainly would consider that information as well into my search. Ultimately they will need to get some first hand experiences from other parents and visit the schools you are considering IMO.
08-09-2013, 11:46 AM
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You're talking as if getting to the north end of DG is like getting to the north side of Chicago from the south side.
No, you are misunderstanding me. I'm just saying that there are other suburbs that are convenient to that office park area
as well as Downers Grove itself. I would still start in Downers Grove if I were in the OP's position. But if for whatever reason they can't find a house in DG that they like in this tight housing market, there are other options that could work as well.
08-09-2013, 12:19 PM
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Right. See what often happens with relocation situations...
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Lookout Kid
No, you are misunderstanding me. I'm just saying that there are other suburbs that are convenient to that office park area as well as Downers Grove itself. I would still start in Downers Grove if I were in the OP's position. But if for whatever reason they can't find a house in DG that they like in this tight housing market, there are other options that could work as well.
...is someone with NO knowledge of the region "gets a tip from a friend" that XXXXXXXX town is THE place for schools or parks or home values or prestige or WHATEVER. The hapless transferee then has their list of homes that they "saw online" and find out that in fact the place look fantastic online actually backs up to the garbage pen of a strip mall with two ethnic resturants and a pet wash. Not so good. Then helpful real estate agent that says "you know in your price point I really thing you should you consider YYYYYYY town because it actually has better schools as shown by the Interactive Report Card, parks that blow away the other towns, better long term price stability, etc...
If there are no homes AVAILABLE in XXXXX town it very often makes sense to consider the neighboring areas.
There is kind of hierarchy of prices but if the OP has $700K and is OK with considering a range or existing homes that run the gamut from newer construction in-fill to historic but not particularly updated they MIGHT find something in DG but the same could be said for about 8-10 towns within a 30 minute drive of the office location. The absolute ranking of schools and such will vary but the options are all pretty solid.
If folks understand what they are getting vs what they are giving up places like Oak Brook can be terrific -- no real core but honestly parks and facilities run by Park District / municipality that blow away what would cost THOUSANDS per month in country club / health center fees, the most extensive network of fitness / jogging / bicycle paths in any town its size, super responsive police force and top tier paramedics funded almost exclusively by sales tax revenue at the luxury Oakbrook Center Mall, knock out shopping options there and at adjacent retail oriented strips, great range of dining and hotels, fantastic amounts of greenspace, pleasantly employed / retired neighbors that are unlikely to intrude on your privacy and all kinds of pluses that come with higher than average housing costs...
08-10-2013, 06:21 AM
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Then helpful real estate agent that says "you know in your price point I really thing you should you consider YYYYYYY town because it actually has better schools as shown by the Interactive Report Card, parks that blow away the other towns, better long term price stability, etc...
...because people should take advice from a real estate agent whose sole job is to close a sale.
As I said before, I am very familiar with DG and spend tons of time in the area. Suggesting OB over DG for a person with a family is insane and shows where your head is. Have you ever spent time in DG during summer weekends? Why don't you take some time off from commission work and spend a nice weekend perusing downtown DG, and report back to CD with your findings.
08-10-2013, 08:50 AM
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I spend about 1/3 of my time in Downers Grove. I have many close friends that live in Downers Grove. I actually am recommendeding the OP start their search in DG.
08-12-2013, 09:47 AM
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Great schools in my mind mean inclusive of kids with special needs, progressive, high testing scores (we can debate this, but unfortunately, this is the world we live in), great extracurricular programming, etc. Some school districts are just better than others, period. My housing budget is high because we have moved a few times and we made a killing on two houses when the market was hot, but it seems like some people already have me figured out.
08-12-2013, 01:10 PM
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Great schools in my mind mean inclusive of kids with special needs, progressive, high testing scores (we can debate this, but unfortunately, this is the world we live in), great extracurricular programming, etc. Some school districts are just better than others, period. My housing budget is high because we have moved a few times and we made a killing on two houses when the market was hot, but it seems like some people already have me figured out.
What type of neighborhood and house do you prefer? Something with an "in town" feel with tree-lined streets and sidewalks? Older house or newer house? That could help me narrow this down a bit. But if you haven't figured this out yet, you have to go really far out to get a new subdivision in Chicagoland. Many people don't think it's worth it, and people who like newer houses often spend more to tear down and rebuild in a more established neighborhood (with really mixed results, in my opinion).
Downers grove has an older core around the downtown with houses built largely from the 1890's through the 1920s, and most of them have been quite nicely fixed up and updated. It then seems like the next building boom was from the 1960s through the 1980s, with many split-level ranch, raised ranch, and two-story colonials. The Orchard Brook subdivision that Chet mentioned is mostly post-war ranches and colonials, but still has a somewhat upscale feel because the home values have remained high. The older houses around the downtown area are probably the most expensive real estate in town, with the Denburn Woods subdivision feeling like a unique exclusive wooded enclave.
08-13-2013, 11:49 AM
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We currently live in a wonderful subdivision with great, new houses, but it is far away from everything, so we've been there and done that. We're looking to live closer to down town. We would like a yard, but it most certainly doesn't need to be gigantic. I don't mind an older home as all, as long as it has been maintained, and fairly updated. I am coming out to look at houses soon, and am looking at Downers Grove, Wheaton, Naperville (203 mainly for commuting reasons and proximity to downtown) and Glen Ellyn. If I don't like those areas, I'll expand my search elsewhere. Thanks for the feedback.
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People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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