12-29-2014, 04:24 PM
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The traffic bottlenecks between Elgin and Wheaton / Glen Ellyn are some of the most heinous rush hour choke points in the region -- the junction of 90 & 53 is terrible and the surface streets are worse.
Barrington is 35 miles to Maywood and has to go through the same bottlenecks!
It would kill the Maywood commuter. Fact is, Glen Ellyn/Wheaton would provide the fairest commutes in this scenario while also checking all other boxes.
Also, I may be mistaken but I don't believe there is a temple within short reach of Barrington...
12-29-2014, 04:26 PM
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I assuming the OP's son / daughter got a promotion at Sherman or Provena , that would be a tough commute compared to other parts of Elgin...
12-29-2014, 04:27 PM
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Without traffic, it's a little under an hour from Glen Ellyn/Wheaton to Glencoe/Kenilworth. I used to commute from Highland Park to Oak Brook and it was awful and it's not as bad as commuting from Glen Ellyn/Wheaton to Glencoe/Kenilworth.
12-29-2014, 04:32 PM
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Without traffic, it's a little under an hour from Glen Ellyn/Wheaton to Glencoe/Kenilworth. I used to commute from Highland Park to Oak Brook and it was awful and it's not as bad as commuting from Glen Ellyn/Wheaton to Glencoe/Kenilworth.
I guess it depends on what is more important... Commuting to work or an occasional drive for the grandparents. I know what scenario I would place more weight on myself.
I just can't see that Barrington to Maywood commute even being feasible. And most of the suburbs between O'Hare and Elgin are just not a good fit. Most have tract housing, bad schools, and a more working-class vibe.
12-29-2014, 04:34 PM
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Barrington is 35 miles to Maywood and has to go through the same bottlenecks!
It would kill the Maywood commuter. Fact is, Glen Ellyn/Wheaton would provide the fairest commutes in this scenario while also checking all other boxes.
Also, I may be mistaken but I don't believe there is a temple within short reach of Barrington...
There's one in Long Grove about 15-20 minutes from Barrington.
12-29-2014, 04:35 PM
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For some reason it's just really easy to drive across Glendale Heights, Carol Stream, and Bloomingdale on surface streeets during rush hour. There are plenty of 40 mph routes and not so much traffic. I do it so often that I've figured out how to get through there very quickly in a predictable manner.
12-29-2014, 04:52 PM
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My experience is that getting to / from Elgin from Barrington is pretty easy. Lots of forest preserves and not many nasty strip malls keep traffic jams to a minimum.
12-29-2014, 05:07 PM
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M...but my philosophy in these cases is never to make folks suffer equally but to try and give one parent a more tolerable commute. I know from professional experience in real estate sales as a former parent in two earner household that this is more tolerable...
This is reasonable advice, and could even point to just staying in Oak Park. Or finding something nice near Elgin if that parent is chosen for the easy commute.
12-29-2014, 07:00 PM
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Glen Ellyn/Wheaton would be 35-40 to each work destination. Barrington to Maywood would be in an hour in traffic, and Barrington to Elgin would be 30 minutes... I understand the argument, but don't see how Barrington helps here.
12-29-2014, 07:06 PM
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There aren't really any temples in the western suburbs except for one in Aurora. Temples are usually in the north shore because there are a lot of jewish people there. The commute to the grandparents' house from the west suburbs would be a far commute. Your daughter should look at Arlington Heights . It's close enough to the north shore for temple and the grandparents' house, but it's also right in between Elgin and Maywood 30-35 minutes to each. There's also a lot of catholic churches in and around Arlington Heights. Arlington Heights has excellent schools too.
I would suggest looking at Buffalo Grove. Large Jewish population and many Jewish temples, but also home to one of the largest Catholic parishes in the suburbs - St. Mary's. It is pretty central to all of the places you would be going to, but it will be a reasonable drive to all of them. The trip to Elgin is not bad at all using Rt. 53 and the Adams tollway. Traffic is not that bad. The trip to Maywood would be a little worse due to 290, but should not be too bad if you use the Tri State rather than Rt. 53. Getting to the North Shore outside of rush hours is not too bad at all. During rush hour can be a challenge.
Schools in the Lake County side of Buffalo Grove are far better than in Oak Park. You could buy a newer 3500-4000 sq ft house in Lake County Buffalo Grove for less than your budget. What you will not find in Buffalo Grove is "wonderful architecture" or a "cool vibe". It is a newer suburb (founded in the mid 1950s) with a lot of open space, but nothing like the architecture in Oak Park and no downtown area (a plan to create a new downtown has been abandoned after significant objections by residents - BGers would rather keep all the green space than create another concrete and glass campus). You need to drive to get pretty much anywhere. If you are looking for even more open space, Long Grove is right next door and has similar demographics. BG is far less urban than a place like Oak Park, which is why so many people like it - and why some wouldn't be caught dead there. I have lived there for over 25 years, so you can guess my opinion!
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House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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