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Old 03-16-2015, 11:56 AM
 
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Old 03-16-2015, 12:27 PM
 
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Aurora, West Chicago, Bolingbrook, and portions of Villa Park and Lombard are the working-class suburbs of Dupage County.
Aurora is not in DuPage County.

Glendale Heights is pretty solidly working class.

A lot of the suburbs in Northern DuPage are in sort of lower-middle or working class, like Bensenville, Itasca, Addison, and Wood Dale. And there are other suburbs in DuPage that are a mix of middle class and working class, like Bloomingdale, Carol Stream, and Roselle. DuPage County is on average one of the wealthiest counties in the United States, but there is a fairly wide variation of income levels.
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Old 03-16-2015, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Which metros specifically? Coming from the east coast a few years back and having friends currently living on the west coast I can tell you it's certainly not more affordable on either of those coasts.
I'm guessing in much of the Midwest outside of the Chicago area you can buy into an excellent school district with a house in the $200K's. Maybe you won't get the fanciest house in the neighborhood, but at least you won't be priced out. I'm familiar with Cleveland, and these are houses in a school district rated as 10 by Greatschools that is close to downtown and has character (i.e. Chicagoland Yuppieville level).

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Old 03-16-2015, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Tri-Cities
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Aurora is not in DuPage County.

Glendale Heights is pretty solidly working class.

A lot of the suburbs in Northern DuPage are in sort of lower-middle or working class, like Bensenville, Itasca, Addison, and Wood Dale. And there are other suburbs in DuPage that are a mix of middle class and working class, like Bloomingdale, Carol Stream, and Roselle. DuPage County is on average one of the wealthiest counties in the United States, but there is a fairly wide variation of income levels.
Yes! We in Kane County love to own Aurora . A part of Aurora is in DuPage, though that part of Aurora is much more like Naperville than it is the historic "core" of Aurora which is in Kane. I would add Bartlett to the more "working class" area. I feel like the majority of the collar counties have a mix of working vs. upper-middle (Kane especially, Aurora and Elgin, more working-class, bookending the more affluent Tri-Cities).
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Old 03-16-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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Which metros specifically? Coming from the east coast a few years back and having friends currently living on the west coast I can tell you it's certainly not more affordable on either of those coasts.
Well yeah East Coast and Cali aren't exactly the best baseline either.

Most major metros in midwest (Minneapolis, STL, Indy etc), Texas, Southeast metros like Atlanta, Nashville, Charlotte etc.

The property taxes in 'great districts' here are astronomical.
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Old 03-16-2015, 03:22 PM
 
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Well yeah East Coast and Cali aren't exactly the best baseline either.

Most major metros in midwest (Minneapolis, STL, Indy etc), Texas, Southeast metros like Atlanta, Nashville, Charlotte etc.

The property taxes in 'great districts' here are astronomical.
The better parts of Minneapolis and Atlanta are not much cheaper than Chicago. As for the other cities, Indy, STL, Charlotte, etc. most workers moving from Chicago to those areas will be taking a significant pay cut to do so. This cut will more than offset any savings associated with relatively inexpensive real estate. Sure you will have exceptions but generally speaking this is the case. Chicagoland is one of the most affordable major metro areas in the World in terms of real estate prices. That's why this argument just drives me nuts.
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Old 03-16-2015, 03:35 PM
 
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The better parts of Minneapolis and Atlanta are not much cheaper than Chicago. As for the other cities, Indy, STL, Charlotte, etc. most workers moving from Chicago to those areas will be taking a significant pay cut to do so. This cut will more than offset any savings associated with relatively inexpensive real estate. Sure you will have exceptions but generally speaking this is the case. Chicagoland is one of the most affordable major metro areas in the World in terms of real estate prices. That's why this argument just drives me nuts.
We aren't talking about affordability. We are talking about affordability of housing in upper tier school districts. Unfortunately I don't know of any metric that combines that.

But Chicagoland is demonstratively not moving in the right direction for jobs/careers overall yet the wealthier areas are doing wonderfully. I maintain its a great area to be in the upper middle class.
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Old 03-17-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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We aren't talking about affordability. We are talking about affordability of housing in upper tier school districts. Unfortunately I don't know of any metric that combines that.

But Chicagoland is demonstratively not moving in the right direction for jobs/careers overall yet the wealthier areas are doing wonderfully. I maintain its a great area to be in the upper middle class.
Do you have statistics to support this claim? If anything, Chicago has been in a bit of a slump over the past few years but is certainly trending upwards of late. Slow, steady growth for a well established metro like Chicago is a good thing...

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Old 03-17-2015, 10:00 AM
 
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Many parts of Darien, Naperville, Downers Grove, etc. are full of middle class residents. Respectable homes in good school districts can be purchased for less than $350,000. The median income in DuPage County is approx. $80,000. Per a basic home affordability calculator, a family can generally afford a home in the low $300s with this level of income, which will vary slightly based upon debt obligations, down payment, etc.
The median income in Dupage is much higher than the Illinois average because it's such a wealthy county (possibly the wealthiest in the state). What constitutes average in Dupage is statistically well above average. Working-class people can't afford to live in neighborhoods where the houses start in the upper $200s/low $300s. They live in neighborhoods where the houses start in the low $100s and top out in the $200s. In other words, blighted suburbs that have seen better days.

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Old 03-17-2015, 10:40 AM
 
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The median income in Dupage is much higher than the Illinois average because it's such a wealthy county (possibly the wealthiest in the state). What constitutes average in Dupage is statistically well above average. Working-class people can't afford to live in neighborhoods where the houses start in the upper $200s/low $300s. They live in neighborhoods where the houses start in the low $100s and top out in the $200s. In other words, blighted suburbs that have seen better days.
We were talking about middle class. Why do you keep harping on working class? Working class could not afford to buy a nice home in good school districts in the Chicagoland suburbs in the prior generation either. Most working class folks rent anyway, especially if they want their kids to attend above average schools.
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