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Old 02-04-2008, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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I agree aragx, but this guy probably sought out this store because he assumed there would be all women inside. So in this case, the presence of a few men may have made a difference.
That's really conjecture. No one knows why this sicko did what he did. He may well have known one of the victims and sought her out. Who knows. I hope they catch him, I really do.
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:23 PM
 
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This is like "browns chicken massacre" dejavu... just horrible. I imagine they'll close that store now.
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Chicago's burbs
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This is like "browns chicken massacre" dejavu... just horrible. I imagine they'll close that store now.
Yes, only this time one of the victims survived. Hopefully that will make it easier to catch the killer, they have a living person to tell cops exactly what happened and identify the killer.
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Old 02-04-2008, 04:13 PM
 
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This isn't the first incident in that shopping center. There have been a few carjackings, attempted robberies, and car thefts. Even though it's in Tinley Park, it's a scary place to be.
WOW - scary???

Where are you from?

If you think that mall is scary, don't ever, ever venture into the city - and god forbid - Lincoln Mall in Matteson or the Plaza in Evergreen.

My in-laws live down the street in Frankfort and I have been to that mall dozens of times with my wife and daughter. My wife goes to that Target, Dick's and PetSmart alone all the time. I go there as well and do not even think twice about letting her go - and it does not worry me in the future.

This was a terrible random act by someone who was obviously not very smart - robbing a Lane Bryant. I would not be surprised if there was a reason it happened - like he was tipped off they had money at that time or there was some other reason.

There is a Bank of America right down the mall from the Lane Bryant - it is easier to get to in and out of - why would they choose Lane Bryant in Tinley unless there was some other reason?

If anyone thinks that mall does not feel safe, my goodness, don't ever venture into the city or anywhere else for that matter. I feel safer there than most Targets or other stores in the city or burbs - I have never seen a shady person there and have never had an even vaguely uncomfortable situation there. I've been to the Target in Orland off 159th a lot as well and I prefer that Target in Tinley by far - don't feel "less safe" at all - actually have always liked it a lot more that the one in Orland due to the fact that it is easier to get in and out of.

I live in the South Loop and frequent the Target, Whole Foods, Dominick's and Jewel on Roosevelt Road and would never let my wife go there alone and sometimes feel a little uncomfortable going to those places myself.

But for someone the say that mall "feels" dangerous - that is seriously crazy. I love that Target and there are always cops around, a lots of shoppers - normal, middle to upper class shoppers.

I have a friend in the FBI that lives in Frankfort and i will ask them if they have heard of any other incidents at that mall, but I have met them at that TGI Fridays before and have never, ever heard a peep from them about any crime there.
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Around Chicago
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WOW - scary???

Where are you from?

If you think that mall is scary, don't ever, ever venture into the city - and god forbid - Lincoln Mall in Matteson or the Plaza in Evergreen.

My in-laws live down the street in Frankfort and I have been to that mall dozens of times with my wife and daughter. My wife goes to that Target, Dick's and PetSmart alone all the time. I go there as well and do not even think twice about letting her go - and it does not worry me in the future.

This was a terrible random act by someone who was obviously not very smart - robbing a Lane Bryant. I would not be surprised if there was a reason it happened - like he was tipped off they had money at that time or there was some other reason.

There is a Bank of America right down the mall from the Lane Bryant - it is easier to get to in and out of - why would they choose Lane Bryant in Tinley unless there was some other reason?

If anyone thinks that mall does not feel safe, my goodness, don't ever venture into the city or anywhere else for that matter. I feel safer there than most Targets or other stores in the city or burbs - I have never seen a shady person there and have never had an even vaguely uncomfortable situation there. I've been to the Target in Orland off 159th a lot as well and I prefer that Target in Tinley by far - don't feel "less safe" at all - actually have always liked it a lot more that the one in Orland due to the fact that it is easier to get in and out of.

I live in the South Loop and frequent the Target, Whole Foods, Dominick's and Jewel on Roosevelt Road and would never let my wife go there alone and sometimes feel a little uncomfortable going to those places myself.

But for someone the say that mall "feels" dangerous - that is seriously crazy. I love that Target and there are always cops around, a lots of shoppers - normal, middle to upper class shoppers.

I have a friend in the FBI that lives in Frankfort and i will ask them if they have heard of any other incidents at that mall, but I have met them at that TGI Fridays before and have never, ever heard a peep from them about any crime there.
I'm originally from the South side of Chicago and currently live in the South suburbs (to some, both of those areas are about as "scary" as you can get). I used to work overnight at the Target in the same lot as the Lane Bryant. We were briefed weekly on the frequent incidents that took place in the parking lot. I came in the store after dark and left before the sun rose, so my safety was definitely an issue. I'm not surprised most people are not aware of the dangers of that lot.
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:07 AM
 
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Crime is everywhere in every neighborhood. People think they live in "safe" areas are lulled into thinking they are secure. You are not, if you carry a purse and are walking alone, you are a target anywhere. Any mall has incidents, just check the local police reports and crime rates. There is a reason that towns with malls have higher crime rates.
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Around Chicago
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That's really conjecture. No one knows why this sicko did what he did. He may well have known one of the victims and sought her out. Who knows. I hope they catch him, I really do.
Yes, I am totally speculating, but not without basis. Last year, in the city, there were two robberies of beauty salons. A stylist was killed in one of them. They were targeted because the cowards knew there would only be women in the shops.
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I agree aragx, but this guy probably sought out this store because he assumed there would be all women inside. So in this case, the presence of a few men may have made a difference.
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That's really conjecture. No one knows why this sicko did what he did. He may well have known one of the victims and sought her out. Who knows. I hope they catch him, I really do.
"The killer of five women at a Lane Bryant store in Tinley Park made sexual advances on at least one of the victims before the slayings and may have targeted a women's shop to avoid confrontation with men, a source said Monday." Full Story
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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"The killer of five women at a Lane Bryant store in Tinley Park made sexual advances on at least one of the victims before the slayings and may have targeted a women's shop to avoid confrontation with men, a source said Monday." Full Story
That's exactly my issue. Why does this reporter say that? The cops didn't say that. An unnamed source said it might have been an attempt to avoid confrontation with men. That's complete conjecture on their part, and it's typical of the way women are treated in the media.
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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What the hell does that have to do with the treatment of women in the media?
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