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Old 07-10-2017, 11:38 AM
 
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Seems many people are moving to Indiana so that might be something for me to think about as well
But are they really?

Where Indiana lost its population last year

"While many parts of Indiana lost population last year, Indianapolis and some other metro counties saw gains.

That's according to U.S. Census Bureau estimates released Thursday morning. The release contains total population per county in 2016, including births, deaths and moving data.

The data show the state's modest overall growth of 20,285 people, or 0.31 percent, remained stagnant.

"The last couple years have been the slowest growth years since the late (19)80s," said Matt Kinghorn, demographer with the Indiana Business Research Center at Indiana University in Bloomington.

That's partially the result of a long-running trend of people moving from the Midwest to the South and Southwest, he said. He noted that Indiana still outpaced its neighboring states.

Kinghorn said it isn't unusual to see migration away from the Midwest — think of retirees seeking warmer weather or young adults heading to jobs or college — but Indiana isn't delivering the kind of "economic magnets" to backfill that population loss."

 
Old 07-10-2017, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Saint John, IN
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I will be the first to admit that our state and City are an embarrassing mess. But think logically. The average professional household move costs over $12k, and that's from an article from 2012, so it's probably higher now. Add that to the real estate commissions you're going to pay to sell your home, coupled with other expenses associated with a move - new furniture, painting the old house to get ready for sale, painting the new one to suit your tastes, etc. - and you're probably talking $25-30k to move out of Illinois.

So if your income taxes went up $1k per year with this new tax increase, your decision will have made financial sense in 25-30 years. And that's ignoring the higher mortgage you might incur in following the flock to high desirability area (Austin anyone?), Or your lower salary due to a "regional adjustment" (hello Nashville!). And unless the warm sun and greener grass makes the flock magically grow smarter, they will probably start electing progressives into office, which means that places like Charlotte, which currently approximately resemble the Christian ideal of heaven by most accounts, might very well end up with the same issues as Chicago in 10-15 years.

IMHO, it will be smarter for voters to focus on what went wrong and try to fix it rather than flee.


Ok, so your figures are WAY off, but nice try! We moved last year from Illinois to NW Indiana. Bought a comparable home to what I had in Illinois, but for $50K less (and it's brand new), plus our property taxes went from $10,500 to $3000 a year! So yes we had to pay a realtor to sell our home, but we came out ahead! Moving truck? Nope paid $100 for that and friends helped us move, so add $50 for pizza and beer! Builder already painted, but my husband can also paint if we wanted to and just because you move you don't have to buy new furniture!


No tax on food here, lower COL over all, paying less for comparable house, WAY lower property taxes, schools are rated better, still only 35 miles to downtown Chicago. Yep financially we are coming out ahead!


I'm not going to lie, I lived on Illinois my entire life and had a hard time leaving, but I almost feel like Illinois forced us to and it's terrible! Now that we have been in Indiana a year I ABSOLUTEY love it and I wish we had done it sooner!

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Old 07-10-2017, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Chicago, Tri-Taylor
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Seems many people are moving to Indiana so that might be something for me to think about as well
Indeed they are. I'm very curious to see if Indiana can maintain the Republican leadership which brought them manufacturing and a higher tax base and whether big city problems from the South Side and south suburbs don't follow them into the Region and Indy. Not a bet i would take but good luck! Maybe the Chicago transplants can turn Gary into Indiana's version of Austin, LOL!
 
Old 07-10-2017, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Chicago, Tri-Taylor
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Ok, so your figures are WAY off, but nice try! We moved last year from Illinois to NW Indiana. Bought a comparable home to what I had in Illinois, but for $50K less (and it's brand new), plus our property taxes went from $10,500 to $3000 a year! So yes we had to pay a realtor to sell our home, but we came out ahead! Moving truck? Nope paid $100 for that and friends helped us move, so add $50 for pizza and beer! Builder already painted, but my husband can also paint if we wanted to and just because you move you don't have to buy new furniture!


No tax on food here, lower COL over all, paying less for comparable house, WAY lower property taxes, schools are rated better, still only 35 miles to downtown Chicago. Yep financially we are coming out ahead!


I'm not going to lie, I lived on Illinois my entire life and had a hard time leaving, but I almost feel like Illinois forced us to and it's terrible! Now that we have been in Indiana a year I ABSOLUTEY love it and I wish we had done it sooner!
Unless you threw the trash bag with your belongings in it into the back of your 1989 Ford Escort you did not move for $100. Nice try haha.

Other people from the Chicago area are starting to love Indiana too, particularly from the south suburbs. I want to see how this shakes out. It will be interesting.

This reminds me a little bit of the Berwyn/Cicero area in the 1990s, when everybody moved to Plainfield and thought they discovered Heaven. Until certain problems followed them there - including overcrowded schools, traffic, higher taxes, and overbuilding. I'm not saying that will happen in NW Indiana but it certainly could.

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Old 07-10-2017, 12:01 PM
 
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Ok, so your figures are WAY off, but nice try! We moved last year from Illinois to NW Indiana. Bought a comparable home to what I had in Illinois, but for $50K less (and it's brand new), plus our property taxes went from $10,500 to $3000 a year! So yes we had to pay a realtor to sell our home, but we came out ahead! Moving truck? Nope paid $100 for that and friends helped us move, so add $50 for pizza and beer! Builder already painted, but my husband can also paint if we wanted to and just because you move you don't have to buy new furniture!


No tax on food here, lower COL over all, paying less for comparable house, WAY lower property taxes, schools are rated better, still only 35 miles to downtown Chicago. Yep financially we are coming out ahead!


I'm not going to lie, I lived on Illinois my entire life and had a hard time leaving, but I almost feel like Illinois forced us to and it's terrible! Now that we have been in Indiana a year I ABSOLUTEY love it and I wish we had done it sooner!
I wouldn't preface 35 miles with "only". I'm 20 miles from downtown and I would not consider this close by any means (especially when you factor in Chicago metro traffic).
 
Old 07-10-2017, 12:41 PM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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I wouldn't preface 35 miles with "only". I'm 20 miles from downtown and I would not consider this close by any means (especially when you factor in Chicago metro traffic).
Given Chicagoland's radius and massive stretch, 35 miles is not much. In other metros like LA that distance is nothing!
 
Old 07-10-2017, 01:00 PM
 
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Given Chicagoland's radius and massive stretch, 35 miles is not much. In other metros like LA that distance is nothing!
Depends. If you are commuting into downtown on a regular basis, it is a lot. If you just want to be within arm's reach for entertainment purposes, then yea it's not terrible.
 
Old 07-10-2017, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago, Tri-Taylor
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Given Chicagoland's radius and massive stretch, 35 miles is not much. In other metros like LA that distance is nothing!
35 miles may as well be 350 miles in this example. NWI will never be Chicago. It is at best a south exburb region, and the political views of most Chicagoans and most Hoosiers is night and day.
 
Old 07-10-2017, 01:32 PM
 
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Unless you threw the trash bag with your belongings in it into the back of your 1989 Ford Escort you did not move for $100. Nice try haha.

Other people from the Chicago area are starting to love Indiana too, particularly from the south suburbs. I want to see how this shakes out. It will be interesting.

This reminds me a little bit of the Berwyn/Cicero area in the 1990s, when everybody moved to Plainfield and thought they discovered Heaven. Until certain problems followed them there - including overcrowded schools, traffic, higher taxes, and overbuilding. I'm not saying that will happen in NW Indiana but it certainly could.
I remember this very well and you are exactly right. More people moving to an area does not always equate to better.
 
Old 07-10-2017, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Tri-Cities
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I remember this very well and you are exactly right. More people moving to an area does not always equate to better.
I feel like Plainfield/Oswego felt the worst of the bust in a lot of ways.
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