Property Taxes and COVID-19 (Chicago, Nashville: for sale, go bankrupt, fence)

[Hiruko]

Originally Posted by MovingForward59

When you close your mind its easy to “Not think of a single way that my quality of life will improve by moving to AZ”

First of all, that is not an accurate quote. Secondly, Illinois offers a better quality of life for me. Another poster seems to think that Arizona is the be-all-end-all and somehow objectively better than Illinois. That is far from the truth.

[MovingForward59]

Originally Posted by Hiruko

First of all, that is not an accurate quote. Secondly, Illinois offers a better quality of life for me.Another poster seems to think that Arizona is the be-all-end-all and somehow objectively better than Illinois. That is far from the truth.

Have you lived in other states?
If not then you do not genuinely know that. You are only assuming.
In the 6 states I’ve lived in Illinois is behind by far. With this pandemic really exposing how weak and unprepared some states are you have to have your head deep in the sand to not see it.
Living in denial only works until the pain of reality is unbearable.

[My Kind Of Town]

Originally Posted by MovingForward59

Have you lived in other states?
If not then you do not genuinely know that. You are only assuming.
In the 6 states I’ve lived in Illinois is behind by far. With this pandemic really exposing how weak and unprepared some states are you have to have your head deep in the sand to not see it.
Living in denial only works until the pain of reality is unbearable.

You’re still here? Why?

[MovingForward59]

Originally Posted by My Kind Of Town

You’re still here? Why?

Because I’m in the process of moving?
Sorry to disappoint you but its impossible to move overnight with the Covid-19 Pandemic.

[tolovefromANFIELD]

Originally Posted by MovingForward59

Have you lived in other states?
If not then you do not genuinely know that. You are only assuming.
In the 6 states I’ve lived in Illinois is behind by far. With this pandemic really exposing how weak and unprepared some states are you have to have your head deep in the sand to not see it.
Living in denial only works until the pain of reality is unbearable.

I've lived on four different continents. In US I've lived/own businesses in LA, Bay Area, Boston and Chicagoland. I've also stayed for nine to 20 weeks at a time in two dozen other locales for work in the US. I think Chicagoland offers by far the best value proposition. I think it's a world class city at affordable prices.

You, the gentleman from Lake Havasu, WJJ, are all retirees/soon to be retirees without school age kids (I assume). It is perfectly normal for you guys to care about and value different things in life than I do, or Hiruko, or Mykindoftown.

Why is it so hard for you guys to accept that? Is it really that difficult for you three to understand that we do see the drawbacks of living in Chicagoland and Illinois, yet we choose to live here because to us, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks?

[MovingForward59]

Originally Posted by tolovefromANFIELD

I've lived on four different continents. In US I've lived/own businesses in LA, Bay Area, Boston and Chicagoland. I've also stayed for nine to 20 weeks at a time in two dozen other locales for work in the US. I think Chicagoland offers by far the best value proposition. I think it's a world class city at affordable prices.

You, the gentleman from Lake Havasu, WJJ, are all retirees/soon to be retirees without school age kids (I assume). It is perfectly normal for you guys to care about and value different things in life than I do, or Hiruko, or Mykindoftown.

Why is it so hard for you guys to accept that? Is it really that difficult for you three to understand that we do see the drawbacks of living in Chicagoland and Illinois, yet we choose to live here because to us, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks?

Its not hard to accept it. What’s hard is how people like you dismiss or deflect the very serious issues facing Chicagoland in attempt to sugarcoat the city. Minimizing the drawbacks doesn’t make them magically disappear.
The corrupt government needs enablers like you to stay in power. At this rate nothing will change.

[My Kind Of Town]

Originally Posted by MovingForward59

Because I’m in the process of moving?
Sorry to disappoint you but its impossible to move overnight with the Covid-19 Pandemic.

Best of luck to you!

[Hiruko]

Originally Posted by MovingForward59

Have you lived in other states?
If not then you do not genuinely know that. You are only assuming.
In the 6 states I’ve lived in Illinois is behind by far. With this pandemic really exposing how weak and unprepared some states are you have to have your head deep in the sand to not see it.
Living in denial only works until the pain of reality is unbearable.

Not only have I lived in another state, but I have also lived in other countries. Illinois might not have the most efficient government or the cleanest politics. But, it does have so much to offer in so many other aspects.

Illinois is not one of those states caught 'unprepared.' Illinois has actually done a good job maintaining a lockdown to try to bend the curve. Illinois was unique in that it had actual infrastructure already in place to handle a pandemic. It has also had one of the most conservative approaches to reopening.

There is nothing 'unbearable' about Illinois.

Originally Posted by tolovefromANFIELD

I've lived on four different continents. In US I've lived/own businesses in LA, Bay Area, Boston and Chicagoland. I've also stayed for nine to 20 weeks at a time in two dozen other locales for work in the US. I think Chicagoland offers by far the best value proposition. I think it's a world class city at affordable prices.

You, the gentleman from Lake Havasu, WJJ, are all retirees/soon to be retirees without school age kids (I assume). It is perfectly normal for you guys to care about and value different things in life than I do, or Hiruko, or Mykindoftown.

Why is it so hard for you guys to accept that? Is it really that difficult for you three to understand that we do see the drawbacks of living in Chicagoland and Illinois, yet we choose to live here because to us, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks?

100%

[Sunbiz1]

[quote=Hiruko;58150646]
There is nothing 'unbearable' about Illinois.
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Since 2010 we've had 5 of the 10 all-time wettest years since records began, and working on a 6th.
Back in the 70's as a child I thought the weather couldn't get any worse.
Climate change has proven me wrong.

[tolovefromANFIELD]

Originally Posted by MovingForward59

Its not hard to accept it. What’s hard is how people like you dismiss or deflect the very serious issues facing Chicagoland in attempt to sugarcoat the city. Minimizing the drawbacks doesn’t make them magically disappear.
The corrupt government needs enablers like you to stay in power. At this rate nothing will change.

Where did I dismiss it? Look back at my earlier comments in this thread and in "man Pritzker annoys me" thread, and you'll see that I'm doing anything but dismiss and deflect.

It's human to be able to hold two conflicting positions at the same time. That is what separates us from rest of the animals.