05-04-2009, 11:50 AM
Location: Chicago: Beverly, Woodlawn
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Yes, even decent law-abiding citizens such as myself might have the urge to smack the wusiness out of this guy.
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BRU67
Naperville and then commute west. I'll waive my 30% of income on housing rule for this guy. I don't know, in my experience, whenever a person is really afraid of urban situations, trouble has a way of finding them -- kind of like the ball in baseball always seems to find the weakest fielder. I knew a guy like this and he ended up being kicked and pistol whipped to within an inch of his life by a bunch of thugs who met a demographic description that most of us would probably classify as urban. In DeKalb no less. I think he lives in Montana now.
05-04-2009, 11:58 AM
Location: Chicago, Tri-Taylor
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ajolotl
Yes, even decent law-abiding citizens such as myself might have the urge to smack the wusiness out of this guy.
They got the guy I knew across the face with a pistol, kicked him on the way down and again several times while on the ground. The only reason they stopped was because someone came out of the 7-11 where this was all happening and yelled, so they ran. No mercy was shown. I'm sure his timid reaction to the thugs was taken as disrespect, and perhaps hurt their feelings to the point where they felt a beat down was in order. Not that I get any pleasure picturing this happening to this guy but it very easily could.
I say downtown Naperville and pay 80% of that $40k income towards housing. Anything for his personal safety.
05-04-2009, 01:09 PM
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typical liberal nutjob
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They got the guy I knew across the face with a pistol, kicked him on the way down and again several times while on the ground. The only reason they stopped was because someone came out of the 7-11 where this was all happening and yelled, so they ran. No mercy was shown. I'm sure his timid reaction to the thugs was taken as disrespect, and perhaps hurt their feelings to the point where they felt a beat down was in order. Not that I get any pleasure picturing this happening to this guy but it very easily could.
Did you ever stop to think that maybe the victim became timid because the thug had a pistol in his hand and he didn't want to get shot? What was he supposed to do in that situation? It sounds like he was damned either way. How about "thugs" stop carrying guns around because anyone who feels the need to carry around a weapon other than a pocket knife is a complete coward in my book.
05-04-2009, 01:46 PM
Location: Chicago, Tri-Taylor
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KevinB74
Did you ever stop to think that maybe the victim became timid because the thug had a pistol in his hand and he didn't want to get shot? What was he supposed to do in that situation? It sounds like he was damned either way. How about "thugs" stop carrying guns around because anyone who feels the need to carry around a weapon other than a pocket knife is a complete coward in my book.
Liberal? LOL!
First time I've been called that in awhile. Anyway, the way I understood the story was that the pistol came out after the beating started, or it kicked it off if you will (pardon the pun). I don't believe the pistol was out when he walked up. They weren't robbing the store. They were just outside, saw him, and made short work of him. I imagine there was some sort of fear manifested prior to the altercation. And, like the animals these thugs were, they sensed that and descended upon him.
Appropriate response? I don't know. All I'm speculating is that his fearful reaction to their presence as an initial matter could have been what made the thugs answer with a thrashing. Not condoning the behavior in any way, just relaying the story.
I agree with your statement 100%. Anyone who carries a gun is an absolute coward, especially when they use the butt end of it on some poor timid white kid who probably fainted before they even laid a finger on him. I have a very low thug tolerance myself and hope these clowns ultimately spent some quality time in prison. The moral of the story for the OP is that if you look scared all the time though, you make yourself a target, so the gentleman will be better off in the most secure area his salary can afford.
05-04-2009, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by
BRU67
They got the guy I knew across the face with a pistol, kicked him on the way down and again several times while on the ground. The only reason they stopped was because someone came out of the 7-11 where this was all happening and yelled, so they ran. No mercy was shown. I'm sure his timid reaction to the thugs was taken as disrespect, and perhaps hurt their feelings to the point where they felt a beat down was in order. Not that I get any pleasure picturing this happening to this guy but it very easily could.
I'll say that's a very real possibility. I've had people respond to me like that (showing obvious fear and intimidation just at the sight of me for no reason) when I'm just walking down the street minding my own business. It is really insulting and hurting and does make you feel like giving them a reason for it.
Granted if the guy had a gun to pistol whip someone, he was already potentially up to no good, but if that guy acts paranoid like that when he walks past "scary people", he definitely increases his chances of getting beat up. That's just like walking up to someone and just saying oh my god you're a monster!
05-04-2009, 09:39 PM
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Mikaris01
That's just like walking up to someone and just saying oh my god you're a monster!
Sure. But a gun wielding criminal has no right to react this way. They are monsters, after all.
05-21-2009, 08:03 PM
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this is too funny.
05-11-2010, 01:03 PM
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There’s a job opportunity for me in Hines, IL (about $40,000/year, living on my own). I don’t have any guns and am not planning on getting any. My vision of Chicago is a racially segregated, crime-filled, accidentally glance at a stranger and get shot kind of place. Are there any parts of the Chicago metro where that is unlikely (what are the safe neighborhoods that I can afford)?
05-11-2010, 01:18 PM
Location: Chicago/Denver
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This is hilarious. I want to know where this guy is from.
05-11-2010, 01:20 PM
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Spielpof
There’s a job opportunity for me in Hines, IL (about $40,000/year, living on my own). I don’t have any guns and am not planning on getting any. My vision of Chicago is a racially segregated, crime-filled, accidentally glance at a stranger and get shot kind of place. Are there any parts of the Chicago metro where that is unlikely (what are the safe neighborhoods that I can afford)?
I hope you're joking, and not as completely clueless as your comment. Metro Chicago is no more dangerous than any other large metro area in the U.S.
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Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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typical liberal nutjob
First time I've been called that in awhile. Anyway, the way I understood the story was that the pistol came out after the beating started, or it kicked it off if you will (pardon the pun). I don't believe the pistol was out when he walked up. They weren't robbing the store. They were just outside, saw him, and made short work of him. I imagine there was some sort of fear manifested prior to the altercation. And, like the animals these thugs were, they sensed that and descended upon him. 
