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Old 02-15-2011, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I've heard someone else say that the drop in homicides is a result of the displacement of unsavory characters.
The murder numbers will go back up this year. Trust me.

 
Old 02-15-2011, 10:21 PM
 
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Finally, someone who can read between the lines and does some research. This map confirms that the heaviest losses were in fact on the far west and far south side. So much for the theory that people from well do Hyde park and Kenwood were the ones leaving. I find it mildly amusing that the same people who are crying doomsday are the same people who slam the west and south side residents at the drop of a hat.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/graphic/2011-02/59464558.jpg (broken link)


Some areas on the West Side had a response rate of 40%.

It really doesn't matter so much in what neighborhood you see the statistical evidence of population decline occuring in when the population of the city has declined overall. The evidence of population decline is always seen in the least desirable areas whenever populations decrease in size overall, because least desirable areas are the lowest on the totem pole. When population declines the lower income portion of the population will just simply move into the middle class areas to fill the void so the middle class areas won't see the population decline. And the middle class will fill any population void that exist in the upper class areas.
 
Old 02-15-2011, 10:23 PM
 
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The murder numbers will go back up this year. Trust me.
What do you base that on? Trends in previous years, statistical data, or the direction of the wind?
 
Old 02-15-2011, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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What do you base that on? Trends in previous years, statistical data, or the direction of the wind?
All three.
 
Old 02-15-2011, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Here we go.

"This time around Chicago's Latino population was up just a little more than 3 percent. The white population was down a bit, while black numbers dropped nearly 17 percent."

"The census information isn't yet complete enough to track where blacks who left the city went, Lewis said. The figures indicate some have moved to suburbs, but a slight decline statewide suggests some African-Americans have been moving out of the region entirely, Lewis said."

Chicago population dips during decade: census - chicagotribune.com
 
Old 02-15-2011, 10:25 PM
 
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All three.
Stats show that homicides have been gradually decreasing for the past 10 years. So I guess it's the direction of wind that determines homicides.
 
Old 02-15-2011, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Stats show that homicides have been gradually decreasing for the past 10 years.
There have been exceptions. They have gone up a few times for a year or two and then decreased again.
 
Old 02-15-2011, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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There is no way this is real. 2009 estimates were almost 2.9 million. All of Illinois seems under counted.
 
Old 02-15-2011, 10:35 PM
 
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There is no way this is real. 2009 estimates were almost 2.9 million.
It is very strange is it not?
 
Old 02-15-2011, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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It is very strange is it not?
It's just not real. I've decided. There's no way that the city shrank by 200,000 (its second largest loss?) in 10 years. Can this be challenged?
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