Mob attack at Water Tower Place last night (Chicago, Skokie: transplants, moving)

[Aleking]

[quote=Dallas101;20410454 Chicago is broken, dying and declining.[/quote]

Hard to argue and Dallas is still a dump.

[SpikeDurden]

Originally Posted by Dallas101

You're right, in fact. Dallas is very similar to Chicago. Both cities are primarily manmade cities in the prairie. Neither city has notable scenery.

The difference is that Dallas is vibrant, healthy and growing, while Chicago is broken, dying and declining.

Lol even if what you said is true, Dallas is still in the state of Texas. And that sucks. I'm in the airport on my way to Texas right now. Not looking forward. Been many times. Texas has a surrounding culture that is not for everyone while Chicago is open and perfect for any citizen of the world to fit right in.

[oakparkdude]

Originally Posted by Dallas101

You're kinda right. I doubt any city on earth has lost EXACTLY one million people. That would be highly unlikely for statistical purposes.

But we know that Chicago has lost at least one million people, per my verified sources.

I do not have a link re. Detroit's current trends, but it's certainly possible Detroit has also lost more than one million. That's your claim, not mine.

According to the 2010 census, Chicago is 925k off its peak. For those who didn't pass basic math, 925,000 is less than 1 million. Its pure speculation what Chicago's census enumeration will be in 2020. It may be more, it may be less. If anyone claims to know for certain, they're a fool. Likewise, according to the 2010 census, Detroit has lost 1.1 million from its peak population. Again, for the mathematically challenged, 925,000 is less than 1.1 million.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by oakparkdude

For those who didn't pass basic math, 925,000 is less than 1 million. Its pure speculation what Chicago's census enumeration will be in 2020. It may be more, it may be less. If anyone claims to know for certain, they're a fool. Likewise, according to the 2010 census, Detroit has lost 1.1 million from its peak population. Again, for the mathematically challenged, 925,000 is less than 1.1 million.

Key words

[oakparkdude]

I mean, its fine to say that Chicago has experienced significant population loss since its peak. You can't argue against that because its true. Its also fine to point on the serious problems that Chicago faces such has high crime in many parts of the city, poor schools, cold winters, etc. But to simply make up statistics to support a negative opinion of Chicago is dishonest and credibility-destroying.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by oakparkdude

I mean, its fine to say that Chicago has experienced significant population loss since its peak. You can't argue against that because its true. Its also fine to point on the serious problems that Chicago faces such has high crime in many parts of the city, poor schools, cold winters, etc. But to simply make up statistics to support a negative opinion of Chicago is dishonest and credibility-destroying.

I completely agree.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by Chicago60614

You're picking and choosing here to get some point across that you beat out over and over and over.

The meaning of the article is that private company employment in the central loop has dropped 20% over the past 10 years, with the residential population growing by more than 200% with an additional 10,581 housing units built, thousands of additional government employees taking over many buildings, the number of hotel rooms in the Loop is up by over 30% and the number of students in the loop increased by over 15,000.

The loop is becoming more residential, educational, leisure and government based. Offices today also tend to have fewer people per square foot than they did in the past. Class A office space that's being built in the place of older buildings has much larger cubes, offices and work areas. The square feet of office space has always been expanding.

The employment that was once cornered into the Loop has expanded out into the West Loop, River North and the Mag Mile area. There are an additional 200,000 people employed in those areas bordering the Loop. The Loop is decompressing and taking over neighboring districts.

Anyway....just because I like numbers and research downtown metrics all the time.

and on top of that, the worst recession since the Great Depression took place at the time of this report.

[RingWalk]

Comparing Chicago to Detroit in any way shape or formed is one of the most harebrained contentions I have come across on these forums, and that's saying something.

[tribecavsbrowns]

Originally Posted by socaldream

Let them defend there precious city while the rest of us move out and on. There are many cities in this country that are vibrant, thriving, and have much better weather than Chicago. And, people actually want to live there. You can have Chicago.

Thanks, not everyone can live in Atlanta or Phoenix, so I'm fine with Chicago as a consolation prize.

[RingWalk]

They do not have comparable population loss.

Chicago had a peak population of 3.6 million in 1950 and now has a population of 2.7 million.

Detroit had a peak population of 1.8 million in 1950 and now has a population of 750K.

Chicago's lost 25 percent of its population since its peak.

Detroit has lost 60 percent of its population.