Its sucks being a college educated BLK male in Chicago. (Cicero: living, restaurant)

[tribecavsbrowns]

Originally Posted by Lorielicious

^^Spot on, for the most part. I'd also attribute the larger integration of Los Angeles to larger number Blacks and Latinos in the middle and upper classes. People like that in Chicagoland may be reluctant to live in the city, as there really aren't that many good places for us to live. There aren't upper-class black neighborhoods here, and mid-to-upper class black people certainly do not live in racially integrated communities of the same class. There doesn't seem to be a Ladera Heights of Chicago, or an equivalent of the West Side. (And if there is, someone please let me know, and I will break my lease and move there today.)

If you're well off and black in Chicago, your choices of desirable places to live are extremely limited. The city is rather segregated racially, so your options are (with a pocketful of exceptions) to live on the South side, and be surrounded by people you have absolutely nothing in common with other than skin tone, or go North and be given the cold shoulder. People here seem to want to sweep the hostility under the convenient rug of "class hostility" but that's silliness and unfettered denial. Perhaps the problem would be solved by middle+ class black and brown people moving in, but I could see why they wouldn't want to. The problem just compounds itself.

Ah well. C'est Chicago.

What about Beverly, the South Loop, Oak Park, Flossmoor, Hyde Park, or Kenwood?

[Lorielicious]

Originally Posted by mjtinmemphis

I dont want to repeat myself but the ones that have the toughest time are the ones that try to fit into the lvlp community. It ain't happening.

Child, please. LV/LP don't appeal to me at all, and I can't even understand why people drool on themselves with adulation for these places.

Don't throw away the entire southside of as being bad. I think Hydepark is a wonderful neighborhood for young professionals that want to embrace racial and cultural diversity.

True. If I stay here, I might consider Hyde Park.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by Drover

In Lakeview and Lincoln Park, it's the "professional" part of "white professional" that's most important. If you find you have similar interests and values as the Lincoln Park/Lakeview crowd, your skin color won't matter much beyond the novelty factor. It's understandable if you don't want to be the token black guy at the bar or social gathering or whatever. But someone has to be if the "no mingling" tendency you're complaining about is to change. As for the wariness of black males in white north-side neighborhoods, it will go some way toward easing people's anxieties if you don't dress like you just got done filming a rap video.

I do find it interesting that it is always blacks trying to and having a problem ''fitting-in'' in white communities etc...why do we never hear about whites trying to fit-in in black communities or social settings?

[mjtinmemphis]

Originally Posted by Kamms

I do find it interesting that it is always blacks trying to and having a problem ''fitting-in'' in white communities etc...why do we never hear about whites trying to fit-in in black communities or social settings?

it's funny that you mention it but many lakeview ers our lincoln park ers are scared to even set foot into hydepark because its on the southside.

When a neighborhood reaches 30 percent black things change with some perceptions White people dont have a problem blending in with hydepark. Its the lakeview/lincolnpark type that will have a problem. (im just using hydepark as an example) (it's not about income either)

[Drover]

Originally Posted by Kamms

I do find it interesting that it is always blacks trying to and having a problem ''fitting-in'' in white communities etc...why do we never hear about whites trying to fit-in in black communities or social settings?

Is this a serious question?

[SalingerBananafish]

Originally Posted by Kamms

I do find it interesting that it is always blacks trying to and having a problem ''fitting-in'' in white communities etc...why do we never hear about whites trying to fit-in in black communities or social settings?

Is there no "whigga" culture in Chicago? They're all over California.

[ptug101]

if your blk the best places, to hang out is
1.hyde park
2.Uptown/bucktown-six corners
3.downtown clubs
5.rush/division


or the blk suburban clubs if u dont want diversity.
I think Lakeview is not that bad,but LP can go to hell
I wouldnt advise going to LP unless you have freinds there.

[reppin_the_847]

Actually this subculture that you refer to is surprisingly weaker in Chicago compared to California. Perhaps it has to do with a lotta the folks on the north side being slightly older yuppies transplanted from throughout the Midwest. Maybe it just never caught on as much. You might see more of this among the younger white dudes that actually grew up in the south side of Chicago though (ie. Beverly, Bridgeport, etc.). You would think that some of the Michigan transplants would carry the culture over here but it's surprisingly non-existent among the ones that transplant to Chicago. Ironic since a certain rapper from Metro Detroit is the icon for this said subculture lol.

Originally Posted by SalingerBananafish

Is there no "whigga" culture in Chicago? They're all over California.

[ptug101]

Originally Posted by reppin_the_847

Actually this subculture that you refer to is surprisingly weaker in Chicago compared to California. Perhaps it has to do with a lotta the folks on the north side being slightly older yuppies transplanted from throughout the Midwest. Maybe it just never caught on as much. You might see more of this among the younger white dudes that actually grew up in the south side of Chicago though (ie. Beverly, Bridgeport, etc.). You would think that some of the Michigan transplants would carry the culture over here but it's surprisingly non-existent among the ones that transplant to Chicago. Ironic since a certain rapper from Metro Detroit is the icon for this said subculture lol.

There are some wiggers in the west suburbs schaumburg,
boilingbrook, and some in oaklawn

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by Drover

Is this a serious question?

It's a serious point, not so much a question. How many young white professionals complain about having difficulty in trying to fit into black social circles etc?