10-28-2011, 09:55 AM
Location: Chicago, IL
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The back roads aren't magically clear of traffic at all times, if that's what you're hoping. If the highways are really congested, the back roads will be quite congested too. Maybe not as bad, but bad enough so that the congestion+lower speeds+stoplights will make it about the same speed (i suspect; never actually timed both and compare) as the severely congested highway.
Also, the suburbs might not be designed for bicycling. I'm not sure if you're allowed to bike on the sidewalk in Skokie, but if you weren't, biking around the area where you work may not be the most enjoyable experience.
I see your point.
I'm also thinking I could take the Yellow Metra line (Clybourne station is right next to my house) to Jefferson Park and then the Pace bus to Howard and Lehigh, which is right around the corner from the office... my only question is how long would this take? Would this be an hour commute? If it would be 40 minutes or even 45, I think it would be my best option. Especially if driving takes me an hour. At least if I'm on the metra I'll be able to read or even do work for my other job while I'm traveling... what do you guys think?
10-28-2011, 10:08 AM
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If you have a car, I would just drive. I-94 is unpredictable, in my experience, but you aren't really going all that far. I drive from Wicker Park to Evanston regularly taking Western the entire way. It takes between 20 and 45 minutes depending on the time of day.
Personally, I get worn out with a lot of transfers, especially if you are planning on using Metra because their schedule is much more structured than the CTA's. If you miss a train by a minute you may end up waiting 30+ minutes for the next one, especially with a reverse commute.
Both bucktown and the location of your new job are by 90/94. I don't see why you wouldn't drive. Also, I suggest you look at google maps again and add the traffic layer. On the bottom of the page, you will be able to change from live traffic to traffic at a particular day and time. So, you can see what traffic typically looks like on Monday at 7:30 am, or on Thursday at 5:00 pm.
If you have any flexibility in your work schedule, you can definitely use that to your advantage to cut down on your commute as well. Going in early will mean less traffic, for example. From what I know of driving to the suburbs during the AM rush hour, the traffic is worse before 90 and 94 split. 94 generally isn't horrible (yellow as opposed to red).
You are really only talking about driving 9 miles. That is not that far. Get some good music for your car and don't stress yourself out about it. You know traffic is going to be unpredictable and annoying at times, but I can't see how using Metra plus a bike or Metra plus PACE would be any less annoying or frustrating.
10-28-2011, 10:13 AM
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Doing the math...
As an add on to what I posted above...
You basically have to go 10 miles at most. So, as long as you average 15 miles per hour on your commute, you will get there in 40 minutes. I don't think 15mph is an unrealistic expectation for a morning commute, especially if you have some schedule flexibility and can come in early or come in a little later and work later.
So there is that, for what it is worth.
10-28-2011, 10:28 AM
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Nikitakolata, you make a valid point.
We just moved here and for the first 2 weeks we were staying in a hotel by Midway and I was driving from Midway area to bucktown every day to clean and get our apartment ready before we moved in. That was only a 10 mile drive too, but the traffic at any given time was horrendous. It took me an hour or more on the highway or back roads, it didn't matter which. I guess I'm just trying to avoid that kind of commute at all costs. And if this drive is anything like that, then I'd rather take public transit. It looks like driving to Skokie/Niles would be better than that because I'm not driving through downtown. But that's why I was trying to get a better idea of what it's going to be like.
Also when we found out we were moving to Chicago, I had this image in my head of taking the train to work. This is the first time I've lived anywhere when I've had the option of reliable public transportation. It's something that really excited me about Chicago. But I want to be practical; if it's more efficient to drive then of course I'd rather do that...
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10-28-2011, 10:51 AM
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Nikitakolata, you make a valid point.
We just moved here and for the first 2 weeks we were staying in a hotel by Midway and I was driving from Midway area to bucktown every day to clean and get our apartment ready before we moved in. That was only a 10 mile drive too, but the traffic at any given time was horrendous. It took me an hour or more on the highway or back roads, it didn't matter which. I guess I'm just trying to avoid that kind of commute at all costs. And if this drive is anything like that, then I'd rather take public transit. It looks like driving to Skokie/Niles would be better than that because I'm not driving through downtown. But that's why I was trying to get a better idea of what it's going to be like.
Also when we found out we were moving to Chicago, I had this image in my head of taking the train to work. This is the first time I've lived anywhere when I've had the option of reliable public transportation. It's something that really excited me about Chicago. But I want to be practical; if it's more efficient to drive then of course I'd rather do that...
I totally understand where you are coming from. I like the train as well, and for where I work (the loop) driving would be insane; not because of the time it would take, but because of the expense of parking.
I drive from Wicker Park to Evanston, Skokie and Wilmette regularly. It really isn't that bad, and I've actually been surprised at how quickly traffic on the Edens moves (that's 94 after it splits from 90; if you're new here you probably haven't committed all the highway names and numbers to memory yet, which is something I could write a whole thread on in and of itself).
I don't think you can compare driving from Bucktown to Skokie to driving from Lincoln Park to Skokie all that accurately. In my experience, the worst part about driving to/from Lincoln Park is the east-west portion. There are tons of stop sign and lights and it just takes forever. Bucktown is right next to the expressway, and if you live near the Clybourn metra station, I know it's very close to you. I have a friend who lives in Bucktown now and drives to Park Ridge for work daily. She could very easily take a train but prefers to drive. Another friend also lived in Bucktown and commuted all the way to North Chicago (the suburb, not the northern part of the city) every day for work. That was a long drive, but she still preferred it to taking the train, even though she could walk to the Clybourn stop.
Anyway, I recommend you just try out driving there during rush hour, if you can. I don't think it is as horrible as you are imagining, based on my experience.
10-28-2011, 12:33 PM
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Howard and Lehigh, you say? We'll practically be work-neighbors!
10-28-2011, 01:05 PM
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Howard and Lehigh, you say? We'll practically be work-neighbors!
What a coincidence! How do you like the area? Do you drive to work?
10-28-2011, 05:02 PM
Location: Berwyn, IL
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What a coincidence! How do you like the area? Do you drive to work?
Well, it's an older industrial park area, so it seems like if you've seen one, you've seen them all.
I commute to work by bicycle unless the weather is absolutely foul (see: the blizzard in February.)
Also, my commute is from Andersonville, so it'll have a completely different dynamic.
I also held this job when I lived in Bridgeport, so I'd schlep up 90/94 from 31st every day. I'm on a flex schedule, but typically start at 7AM and leave by 3:30, which means traffic on 90-94 hasn't gotten HORRIBLE yet (it gets bad at Touhy, so if you drive, get off at Caldwell/ rt 14.)
However, if you leave work later and start at more traditional times, it might suck. Even when I lived in Albany Park @ Kedzie and Wilson, the difference between leaving @ 6:30, 7:15, and even 7:30 AM were entirely different.
10-30-2011, 03:42 AM
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Depends entirely on the time of day.
9 pm to 7 am - piece of cake. 20 minutes door to desk.
7-10 am and 3-7 pm. Very unpredictable and could be an hour. May be better to take Western Avenue, or a roundabout route like Elston to Crawford. Get a GPS with traffic receiver, or a smartphone equivalent.
10 am to 3 pm and 7-9 pm - in between. Allow 40 minutes but YMMV.
good luck.
10-30-2011, 10:34 AM
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Why not try driving there and back during the times you'd be going and coming home to see how long it it?
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People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)