City fines to double and triple, water and sewer rates to double in 4 years (Chicago: foreclosures, felon)

[emathias]

Originally Posted by Alacran

In the future las vegas will buy water from us.

Unlikely. It's very difficult to transport water in large scale that far. Libya has an enormous project bringing prehistoric water to the surface and piping it to the coast, but once the water is pumped out of the ground, most of the trip is roughly downhill. To get from Chicago to Las Vegas, you'd have to deal with the Rocky Mountains and the long, continuous slope upward. Las Vegas is on the other side of the Continental Divide.

Plus, there's the little detail that shipping water from the Great Lakes to other areas would violate international treaties with Canada.

So Las Vegas will just have to move here. We could set the strip up along 55th between Washington Park and Kimball ... great way to rejuvenate the South Side, don't you think?

[North Beach Person]

As far as water and sewer rates go most jurisdictions classify those as Enterprise Funds, which is a way of saying that they have to pay for themselves without general tax revenue. Those systems are incredibly expensive to build and to operate. Many nationally are aging and have to be upgraded to meet new standards which are constantly changing at both federal and state levels.

One new one for water is new standards for arsenic levels. That requires treatment for removal in many systems. Sewer plants now have to do Enhanced Nutrient Removal to cut the amount of phosphorus and nitrogen in treated waste water released to rivers, bays, etc. to cut down on algae growth caused by those nutrients. Neither system is cheap. Add to that the periodic replacement of equipment (some pumps can run up to $1M) and you're talking serious money.

[Alacran]

Originally Posted by emathias

Unlikely. It's very difficult to transport water in large scale that far. Libya has an enormous project bringing prehistoric water to the surface and piping it to the coast, but once the water is pumped out of the ground, most of the trip is roughly downhill. To get from Chicago to Las Vegas, you'd have to deal with the Rocky Mountains and the long, continuous slope upward. Las Vegas is on the other side of the Continental Divide.

Plus, there's the little detail that shipping water from the Great Lakes to other areas would violate international treaties with Canada.

So Las Vegas will just have to move here. We could set the strip up along 55th between Washington Park and Kimball ... great way to rejuvenate the South Side, don't you think?

There's something called a bottle.

[Broadrippleguy]

Originally Posted by myrc60

Wow way to push more poor people out of the city!

This kind of stuff amuses me and amazes me at the same time.
First we all know Chicago is full of corruption thats the amusing part.
The Amazing in a bad way *Insanity* is how many more stupid things can Chicago come up with in laws and ordinences. Maybe Forbes.com needs to give an Award for Cities with the most laws and regulations.
Cause seriously If you have a problem with Tall Grass on a property that i paid for then theres a problem with the city. Now Granted I would personally have a problem with 4 foot tall Grass. But Poor people can afford to buy Gasoline to Mow atleast once in awile to prevent 4 foot Grass. *Heck ask a friend to do it if you really want to save $$$* However the law states it can't be taller than 10 inches lol

Chicago60614 why are Chicago's finances in the toilet? Hmm i don't need to guess the Liberals that Control the city and state spend and spend and spend until theres no money left. A Rule for Liberalism is it will always fail when the money runs out *Greece for Example their Government is dying*
Las Vegas drunk to answer your question Las Vegas is in trouble regardless as long as California contiunes to hog water out of Lake Mead. Honestly Las Vegas needs that water not LA and Farmers in CA theres an Ocean for LA to desalinate to get water. Las Vegas doesn't have that luxary.

[emathias]

Originally Posted by Alacran

There's something called a bottle.

They're not talking about drinking water, they're talking about water for everything. You don't provide daily water for a metro area of two million people with water bottles.

[Alacran]

Yes. You do.

[emathias]

Originally Posted by Alacran

Yes. You do.

You shower with bottled water? You do laundry with bottled water? Not in the Western world, you don't.

Las Vegas currently averages 165 gallons of residential water per capita. That's not including hotels or industry, that's residential-only. Total usage is about 250 gallons per person.

There's 2 million people in the LV metro area, so that's 500 million gallons per day.

If you brought it in via "bottles" of rail cars, the big tanker cars can carry about 50,000 gallons each. 500 million gallons per day would work out to 10,000 rail cars per day. If it cost $2,000/car to do that (20% less than CN's tanker car quote for Chicago-LV), you'd be at $20 million/day for water. about 60% of that is for residential-only, so that's be $12/day per resident. How many people are going to live in a city that has to charge well over $350/month per person for water?

[Alacran]

A city with no water.

[Payne222]

Hahahahahahaha!

[aragx6]

Originally Posted by Broadrippleguy

Cause seriously If you have a problem with Tall Grass on a property that i paid for then theres a problem with the city. Now Granted I would personally have a problem with 4 foot tall Grass. But Poor people can afford to buy Gasoline to Mow atleast once in awile to prevent 4 foot Grass. *Heck ask a friend to do it if you really want to save $$$* However the law states it can't be taller than 10 inches lol

When you purchase a property you accept with that a responsibility to not only your property but the neighborhood that surrounds it. To say that, because I own a property, I should have a right to simply refuse to cut my grass is ludicrous.

And if you can't afford gas for your lawn mower, might I suggest a push mower?

10 inch grass is really tall!