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Old 03-24-2008, 11:26 AM
Location: Chicago, Tri-Taylor
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Originally Posted by Humboldt1 View Post

Why did you say Pilsen and Little Village are good?

I don't agree with you on this one, but you seem knowledgeable from your other posts and I would like to hear why you included these areas as "good."

I would agree that pilsen and little village, with all their problems are still better than most parts of austin, garfield park, and lawndale.
Thanks. Pilsen is in a great location, has interesting architecture and culture, and is experiencing fairly rapid gentrification despite attempts to thwart that by short-sighted and quasi racist forces. It may not be 100% "sun 'n roses" quite yet but in 5 years, it will be. It deserves a "good" rating.

Little Village, well, I was thinking in terms of commerce and potential when I wrote this originally. It is quite an interesting and vibrant area, and I'd heard (unsubstantiated) stories of young professional Latinos buying properties and moving in there. But it's also a dangerous and rather dirty place at this time. In '08, there have been at least a few murders there. As such, I'm going to backtrack on that one and rescind my "good" rating. If we get another wave of gentrification at some point, it will stand a good chance of being part of that, but for now, probably too far to go to recommend.

Old 03-30-2008, 02:34 PM
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I really don't feel immature by saying that there are a lot of self proclaimed moral and resolute people in the world who by there naivety feel that there is no such thing as bad people in Chicago. I personally worked with some of your city workers and some Daley people who by their own admission feel that many individuals outside their own network of feeble minded self proclaimed activists for Chicago peace and safety have no place in their world accept to collect as much revenue as possible from the population. To feed their own agendas and their network of schools, patronage jobs and father to son employment with the government. When has the economy and the job market been so poor in the history of America. The great depression was a wake up call but we are close to it now but somehow it is being swept under the rug by intensifying our relationship with Mexico and China and other impoverished nations to reduce the wages and increase slave labor in our cities. Sure their our many white collar jobs that pay a living wage but the real percentage of people living in poverty levels is staggering. These numbers rarely if ever come out or are accurate. Your statistical data base that you refer to is not what you may think. These analysis's that are done are inaccurate and misleading. The people responsible for putting them together are directly tied to the results. These are not done by arbitrary companies that have no monetary interest in the results, they are done by employees or companies that need to keep the numbers close to what the political and business interests are geared to. I realize that this information may seem wierd or as one member said immature. But if one takes an honest look at the information they may see a pattern of always making the politicians and lawmakers decisions to be right. How can everyone always be right and you still have fear, crime, poverty, poor health care, higher prices and more wars. The world isn't like the movies. Always a happy ending and if I am stirring things up a little so be it. The homeless and the sick and orphaned need a voice too. The elderly are being shoveled into our health care facilities and fed drugs and tasteless food until their hearts give out, and nobody says a word. The price of food and water is escalating and none says a word. Gas prices and energy costs are skyrocketing and the IRS and the federal reserve keep churning money into their coffers. If your lucky your parents might have saved some money to send you to college but God forbid if you pick the wrong classes. You too could be homeless in 5 years. If your not connected in some way to the system you probably will die in a county hospital or worse in a holding cell at 26th and California. So getting back to the neighborhoods. Many people realize these facts and many more, that is why in my opinion there is so much fear and crime in these areas. Give people some hope and a fighting chance and you will see the neighborhoods and the government get better. The best defense is always a good offense. Look at boys town with Mickey Rooney and you will see that their are no bad boys just bad luck. Give them some dignity and they will be better people. How in the world some one would tell me to shut up about the ills of the world in America the land of the free is beyond my understanding. If I am not welcome to voice my opinion in this forum then maybe Hitler is among us. lol Right or wrong I will say what I feel.
Old 03-30-2008, 02:57 PM
Location: Chicago
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Holy gigantic nearly unreadable block of text, Batman!
Old 03-30-2008, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Drover View Post
Holy gigantic nearly unreadable block of text, Batman!
Seriously. Indentation is important!
Old 03-30-2008, 05:54 PM
Location: Chicago
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Wow. Has any one seen the bridge?:-0
Old 03-31-2008, 07:53 AM
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I will go according to what I got off from an escort website. our girls will not go to any parts of Chicago located on the west and south side. Only the north side. Trust me these people know what are the bad parts of Chicago and that is basically ninety percent of it.
Old 03-31-2008, 11:50 AM
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Default Escort Service Advice?

One has to question taking advice from an escort service.

There are nice parts of Chicago on both the west and south sides. Yes, there are rough areas, but there are also some very nice areas. There are also some northern parts of Chicago with their challenges.

I would say though that the worst parts of Chicago may be on the west and south sides in areas such as Lawndale, Little Village, Austin, Englewood, Garfield Park. Uptown on the north side may have some challenging spots but nothing like what is seen as normal for Garfield Park and the other areas I just mentioned.
Old 03-31-2008, 11:57 AM
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South Lawndale has a low violent crime rate. Is that because people there are less likely to report crimes, or is it because some think it is more violent than the reality?
Old 03-31-2008, 12:20 PM
Location: Chicago
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South Lawndale has what? Are you kidding me?
Old 03-31-2008, 12:23 PM
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Default south lawndale

I don't know much about south lawndale. I should been more specific and said west garfield and north lawndale as some of the worst of the worst. East Garfield Park isn't nearly as bad as West Garfield Park.

Maybe some other posters can speak directly regarding south lawndale vs. North lawndale.
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