Humboldt Park???? (Chicago, Oak Park, River Forest: section 8, real estate, rent)

[Venom]

Cali I mean.
Sheesh, can't even make a little mistake here.

>.<

[ChiMack]

humboldt has been making the news a lot this year...

Teen, three men shot in Humboldt Park :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Chicago Crime (http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/1593876,w-humboldt-park-shooting-052709.article?plckCurrentPage=1&sid=sitelife.sunt imes.com - broken link)

[Avengerfire]

[eevee]

like I said before, delusional

[Humboldt1]

Not sure how my comments were off-topic as they pertain to the ongoing gentrification of Humboldt Park and elimination of the riff raff that has brought the community down over the past few decades.

As I stated before, Humboldt Park is constantly changing, from one ethnic group to another. Germans and Norweigians built the park and many of the 2-3 flats and other apartment buildings we see in Humboldt Park, which are mostly well-built and some of which are older than 100 years old.

Starting in the 1950s, there was a big migration of Puerto Ricans and the population started to change. Southern parts of Humboldt Park are almost entirely black as the result of spillover from Garfield Park to the south, which changed dramatically as its population shifted from white to black.

Gentrification has certainly slowed in Humboldt Park and while there are parts that are liveable, it is not an area I would raise a family and would not have my kids go there to school unless they got into Lane Tech. This is not any different than many other areas. Clemente High School is very challenged and I would never send my kids there to school.

The kind of gentrification that happened in Bucktown/Wicker Park and now is happening in Logan Square will slowly flow over into Humboldt Park as is currently happening on the eastern side of the Park. West of Kedzie, gentrification will take longer. I expect gentrification will happen the closer you are to Logan Square and West Town and the further you are away from Garfield Park and Austin, which I do not see improving for a long time.

Eevee, lived just a few blocks south and west of where I lived and am looking to buy another building, but a few blocks makes a huge difference. My building is only 1/2 mile north and east of that corner and the neighborhoods are very different. There are no blue flashing lights or gang bangers and people out at all hours on street corners on my block as it is mostly hispanic working families. We have a few black families in some of the absentee landlord buildings (like 5 families for the whole block). One black family owns their building and apart from grown black men hanging out on their porch at night drinking and smoking the occasional blunt, they are harmless. I even chat it up with Demetrius from time to time. Nice guy, but wears ankle band due to continued problems from heroin addiction.

For the most part, my former neighbors are good people, just poor. They just call me guerro and that is all good, because I am the lone white boy on the block.

[quigboto]

Not sure how my comments were off topic either. I see some egregiously off topic stuff here that never gets deleted. Maybe as a resident of Humboldt Park, my opinion of Humboldt Park is somehow less valid.
Way to wield your almighty power, Mod.
Nice.

[Humboldt1]

I disagree with many of MissHumboldt's remarks but they are relevant to Humboldt Park discussion. We need to have other viewpoints represented, however delusional.

I wholeheartedly disagree with Humboldt being this safe place with good schools, but MissHumboldt certainly has the right to express their opinions.

Quigboto,

Like you, I wish I did not buy my property in Humboldt Park, but it has taught me alot. I think over the long haul I will be okay, especially as this experience may allow me to buy some bargains down the road that I would not have been aware of had I not bought here in the first place.

Humboldt Park is getting better, we just need to be patient. It will be a long, long time before we get back to 2005-2007 prices, but if we hold on for the next 10 years most of us should be okay.

[quigboto]

Humboldt1,
We talked ourselves into buying this place because of HP's potential. What a mistake. After 5 years, I would be hard pressed to wait another 10 for the neighborhood to realize it's potential, if it ever reaches it at all. I am at an age where I would rather be someplace that wants to get there and is either well on its way or has arrived. I think its sad that the same people who thump their chest about neighborhood pride can't even pick up their garbage and tolerate, sometimes even celebrate, thugs and criminals running roughshod over their beloved 'hood.
I am often frustrated and filled with regret at my decision to buy a house here. We would even unload this place at a reasonable loss if the opportunity came just to get out from under it.

[mas23]

whoa!...half the discussion just "magicaly" dissapeared....

[Holdencaulfield]

Humboldt, I don't share your predictions regarding Humbold Park. I was looking at the area around Pulaski and North and it looks pretty run down. There has been talk of Humboldt Park gentrifying for the past 15 years. The only areas I see improving in the next 10-20 years are the areas bordering eastern Logan Square and West Town. The development in Humboldt Park starts to drop off west of Sacramento and is virtually non existent past 3300 West. I see the development headed northwest instead of west. The spill over of gentrification will go towards Avondale and not Humboldt Park west of Kimball. Expect the neighborhood west of Kedzie to be a Latino Barrio for the next 20+ years.