View Poll Results: Should Chicago build a multi-purpose roofed stadium?
Yes
12 37.50%
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05-18-2012, 10:07 AM
Location: Chisago Lakes, Minnesota
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Irishtom29
What if we are? I don't give a damn.
That's what I love about Chicagoans......short, and to the point!
05-18-2012, 10:08 AM
Location: Indianapolis
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The Northerner
Agree with many of these points, but remember that I am envisioning a venue which would be an absolute sports/entertainment magnet, not just a football stadium. If Indy, Minneapolis, and Detroit are hosting these mega events, shouldn't Chicago want a piece of that action? It's an Alpha plus city.....one of the most important places in America, if not the world......I just think it would be incredible to see a joint like that and the buzz it would create in Chi-town.
Well Indy did a fantastic job with the Super Bowl. Heck the Media/NFL/Even Roger Goodell praised Indy for a great Super Bowl.
There is calls for another Super Bowl bid for Indy later this decade and Mr. Jim Irsay would support it
Lucas Oil Stadium also is bigger than Soldier Field and is enclosed. Capacity can be raised to 70k for the event and the NFL likes the revenue. The Payoff though for the Super Bowl in Indy is everything is downtown so there is no shuttling people to other parts of the metro to get entertainment. Plus the NFL Experience set records during the 10 day Super Bowl festivites and the Super Bowl Village was busier than the Mag Mile and Michigan Avenue lol. 1,300,000 people visited it during the 10 days and Downtown was shut down due to all the people from Cincy/Chicago/St Louis/Detroit etc.
Soldier Field though would be to expensive to put a roof over so Chicago can just come to Indy for Super Bowl fun
Not to mention Taxpayers dont want to pay for it either.
05-18-2012, 10:09 AM
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Well Indy did a fantastic job with the Super Bowl. Heck the Media/NFL/Even Roger Goodell praised Indy for a great Super Bowl.
There is calls for another Super Bowl bid for Indy later this decade and Mr. Jim Irsay would support it
Lucas Oil Stadium also is bigger than Soldier Field and is enclosed. Capacity can be raised to 70k for the event and the NFL likes the revenue. The Payoff though for the Super Bowl in Indy is everything is downtown so there is no shuttling people to other parts of the metro to get entertainment. Plus the NFL Experience set records during the 10 day Super Bowl festivites and the Super Bowl Village was busier than the Mag Mile and Michigan Avenue lol. 1,300,000 people visited it during the 10 days and Downtown was shut down due to all the people from Cincy/Chicago/St Louis/Detroit etc.
Soldier Field though would be to expensive to put a roof over so Chicago can just come to Indy for Super Bowl fun
Not to mention Taxpayers dont want to pay for it either.
1.2 million hoosiers and 100K out of towners maybe.
05-18-2012, 10:11 AM
Location: "Chicago"
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I'm sure the Bears organization probably does want one (a brand-new, enclosed stadium). But the City of Chicago is happy with Soldier Field and would never support the Bears leaving Soldier Field to go to another venue, even if that venue were in the city. Which means the Bears would have to do it without any support from the City, and probably little support from the State. Which means the Bears would have to come up off the billion dollars it would take, out of their own pockets. Which ain't gonna happen.
Exactly. The time to plan a domed stadium was back in the 90s when the rebuilt Soldier Field was on the drawing board. That ship has sailed already - Chicago has its new football stadium and its small, outdoors and silly-looking.
05-18-2012, 10:33 AM
Location: Chicago
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emathias
Chicago is a sports town, which is why we don't have domed stadiums. Real sports are played outside. If it's inside, it's just entertainment.
"
Ladies and Gentlemen, the greatest sporting event in the history of sporting events... The Chicago Marathon! "
Other Real Sports played outside:
-(Bean) Bag Toss
-Beer Pong
-Horse Shoes
-Bowling (I've seen it played outside!)
-Hop Scotch
-Tag
-Bum Fights
Okay, enough of me being a smart A------------.
I don't like the, "We don't want the elements to decide the game" mentality that it has towards the Super Bowl.
I don't like it because if they were *truly* serious about it, they would have all the playoff games (including Wildcard) played at a neutral warm weather site, or a domed stadium, where the "elements" are a very small factor in play.
The weather is just something people have to contend with and push through. It is random and unpredictable. Much like injuries.
Would anyone think to postpone the Super Bowl if one (or both) of the contenders had star players injured in the playoffs (or earlier in the season)?
No! That's laughable. S------- happens, and you deal with it.
There is no reason why Chicago couldn't host a Super Bowl. If playing outdoors in the (random) weather for a Wildcard, Division, or Conference title is good enough to decide who gets to compete in the Super Bowl, why can't the Super Bowl be a game where a "S------- happens... Deal with it" mentality remains?
At least in Chicago, Super Bowl attendees don't have to leave the city, let alone the state, to go to the game.
05-18-2012, 11:00 AM
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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The Northerner
I love outdoor football, don't get me wrong, but a city like Chicago really should have something in the mold of Ford Field/Lucas Oil Stadium in this day & age. Chicago would be such an excellent host for events such as the Super Bowl, Final Four, etc., not to mention countless Big 10 events and other massive entertainment ventures. I'm sure this has probably been discussed before, but the premise of the thread is that I'm just amazed a world class city and first rate sports town like Chicago doesn't have a multi purpose roofed stadium. I know they don't NEED one, but why wouldn't they WANT one?
I agree, although it would cost a ton of money. Yes, sure everything is better outside, but the Bears are extremely lucky that people will come and watch them in 15 degree weather. Retractable roofs are a good thing because as you've pointed out, it is more possible to maximize revenues gained through it in a climate such as Chicago if the demand is there in the first place at least.
05-18-2012, 11:07 AM
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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emathias
Chicago is a sports town, which is why we don't have domed stadiums. Real sports are played outside. If it's inside, it's just entertainment.
Once you have spectators paying money to watch a sport, it becomes both sports and entertainment regardless of where it's being played. I don't understand your point. 99.9% of people at a stadium or arena watching a sport are doing it to be entertained. Even sports bettors are watching partially to be entertained. Other than that...what do you think people do? "OH yeah, the air flow around this object due to the surface area is so intriguing." NO, they are going there to be entertained. It doesn't matter what environment it's being set it. If people are paying to watch it, it's automatically entertainment.
The definition of sport has nothing to do with the environment it's played it. Don't get me wrong, I'm a proponent of sports being outdoors as much as anyone else, but I just don't understand your point at all.
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05-18-2012, 12:26 PM
Location: Chicago
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05-18-2012, 02:18 PM
Location: Chisago Lakes, Minnesota
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I agree, although it would cost a ton of money.
Yeah, that was one of the downfalls for the Jets stadium in Manhattan, too. Still, even though NY is technically hosting a SB soon, it just seems weird to me that Chicago and NY - 2 of the richest, most renowned cities in all the world - not to mention 2 of the best sports towns - wouldn't have an indoor stadium capable of hosting the biggest events in sports and entertainment.....especially considering their northern latitude. You just know the NFL, NCAA people, etc., would be all over those venues if they existed. I would think Notre Dame, which many consider a suburban Chicago school, would definitely want to host some huge matchups in a Chicago indoor stadium if it were built.....i.e. the rivalry games vs. USC, Michigan, etc.
At least New York (New Jersey) has Met Life stadium, which is an 82,000 seat gem. Soldier Field? Not only is it too small in capacity, but someone should be flogged for what they did to that place asthetically. That is one hot mess to look at. Chicago could do a LOT better than that. The stadium doesn't stack up to the city.
05-18-2012, 02:30 PM
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People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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