The most underrated neighborhood in Chicago (Champaign, Urbana: activity, offices, population)

[FAReastcoast]

Originally Posted by Chi-town Native

You mean, like a blanket statement which assumes someone living somewhere for decades can be boiled down to knowing "a few dozen people"?

Dude, you're great, please don't stop!

Read the post I quoted:

I was responding to you? Initially I thought maybe you hadn't been to Avondale, but I was proven wrong.

You say I can't prove anything but you can't prove that I am wrong either. I mean you say your friends aren't like that so that is the proof for you, but my experience is the opposite where I have met dozens of people that are like what I have described over a 26 year period. So your experience is valid but somehow the experience I have had is not?

[Chicagoist123]

Originally Posted by FAReastcoast

No, but your view is coming across as absolute truth. In reality, knowing a couple dozen people doesn't mean anything, when there are close to 175,000 people living in those two neighborhoods. Any blanket statement made like that sounds crazy to me.

No, it's coming off as that has been my experience with a grand majority of other people experiencing it too. Other people that I know that other people in LP and LV tell me the exact same thing. People on these boards are telling you the exact thing. If it were just a couple dozen I don't think it would even be a discussion on this board.

When did I say that all 175,000 people are like that.

You know I wonder if I said Little Village is realy homogenous and the people live in a bubble and never leave it, would you argue so much against it? Would you?

So let me ask you this. People in Chicago or the Midwest are very friendly to many outsiders right? But is it quanitified? If you came and told me that Chicagoans are friendly, how would you go about proving it? By your experience. So the next time you ever say "Wow, people in Chicago are friendly" or "Women in Brazil are hot" those are all claims that can't be quanitfied, they are all by experience. There are some things that can be claimed through experience not through numbers.

[Chicagoist123]

Originally Posted by FAReastcoast

Read the post I quoted:

I was responding to you? Initially I thought maybe you hadn't been to Avondale, but I was proven wrong.

You say I can't prove anything but you can't prove that I am wrong either. I mean you say your friends aren't like that so that is the proof for you, but my experience is the opposite where I have met dozens of people that are like what I have described over a 26 year period. So your experience is valid but somehow the experience I have had is not?

Dozens does not equal 2 dozen. By dozes I could have meant 100 dozen.

[FAReastcoast]

Originally Posted by Chicagoist123

No, it's coming off as that has been my experience with a grand majority of other people experiencing it too. Other people that I know that other people in LP and LV tell me the exact same thing. People on these boards are telling you the exact thing. If it were just a couple dozen I don't think it would even be a discussion on this board.

When did I say that all 175,000 people are like that.

You know I wonder if I said Little Village is realy homogenous and the people live in a bubble and never leave it, would you argue so much against it? Would you?

So let me ask you this. People in Chicago or the Midwest are very friendly to many outsiders right? But is it quanitified? If you came and told me that Chicagoans are friendly, how would you go about proving it? By your experience. So the next time you ever say "Wow, people in Chicago are friendly" or "Women in Brazil are hot" those are all claims that can't be quanitfied, they are all by experience. There are some things that can be claimed through experience not through numbers.

That example is apples to oranges.

People in the midwest are friendly - Opinion

Brazilian woman are hot - Opinion

Chicagoans are much friendlier than New Yorkers - Opinion

People who live in Lincoln Park and Lakeview do not leave and explore other neighborhoods in the city - That is not an opinion, you are clearly stating people do not leave the arbitrary borders of lincoln park and lakeview.

See the difference?

As for Little Village, yes it is Homogeneous, that can be proven. Do they ever leave their neighborhood? I have no idea, and neither do you.

[Chicagoist123]

Originally Posted by FAReastcoast

That example is apples to oranges.

People in the midwest are friendly - Opinion

Brazilian woman are hot - Opinion

Chicagoans are much friendlier than New Yorkers - Opinion

People who live in Lincoln Park and Lakeview do not leave and explore other neighborhoods in the city - That is not an opinion, you are clearly stating people do not leave the arbitrary borders of lincoln park and lakeview.

See the difference?

Then it's my opinion, hopefully that will make you shut up now.

[FAReastcoast]

Originally Posted by Chicagoist123

Then it's my opinion, hopefully that will make you shut up now.

And he has thrown in the towel...the argument is officially over! Shut up? wow, your a tough guy, so many badasses on this board.

It is my opinion the sky is green, must be true.

P.s. If you really want to tell me to shut up, meet me here anytime from 6-9pm tonight; let's see tell me to shut up then tough guy

[Chicagoist123]

Originally Posted by FAReastcoast

And he has thrown in the towel...the argument is officially over! Shut up? wow, your a tough guy, so many badasses on this board.

It is my opinion the sky is green, must be true.

Ok whatever man.

[Chi-town Native]

Originally Posted by FAReastcoast

People who live in Lincoln Park and Lakeview do not leave and explore other neighborhoods in the city - That is not an opinion, you are clearly stating people do not leave the arbitrary borders of lincoln park and lakeview.

See the difference?

As for Little Village, yes it is Homogeneous, that can be proven. Do they ever leave their neighborhood? I have no idea, and neither do you.

LOFL.

I'll keep playing.

Number #1, the borders aren't arbitrary:

Lincoln Park, Chicago - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lake View, Chicago - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Number #2, Little Village may be homogenous by your Italian-Russian standards, but you clearly aren't exploring Chicago very effectively if you haven't figured out that Mexico is a very large and very diverse place.

And I don't think anyone, anywhere, ever said people in LV/LP don't leave their neighborhood - that's clearly delusional.

What we've been saying is that they have gotten very homogenous from a cultural standpoint when compared to other neighborhoods.

And where you continue to miss the boat is your concept that eating at restaurants is the end-all be-all for judging a neighborhood. By that standard multiple blocks of LP & LV are less desirable than vomit-encrusted student housing in Urbana Champaign.

Here's another look at the "New LP":

Lincoln Park Zoo

Can't you just feel the diversity?

[Chi-town Native]

Originally Posted by FAReastcoast

And he has thrown in the towel...the argument is officially over! Shut up? wow, your a tough guy, so many badasses on this board.

It is my opinion the sky is green, must be true.

P.s. If you really want to tell me to shut up, meet me here anytime from 6-9pm tonight; let's see tell me to shut up then tough guy

Jiu-jitsu is great - but IMO you're not applying those grappling skills very effectively into the realm of debate.

[Plzeň]

Originally Posted by FAReastcoast

You are not an authority on making blanket statements about a majority of people who live in a neighborhood (especially when discussing their travel patterns), no matter how long you have lived in a city.

Unless you've only lived there a year, in which case you are an authority, apparently.