The most underrated neighborhood in Chicago (Hispanic, Irish, working)

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by jman07

This thread has taken a turn towards discussing racism in LP/LV. It is not racism as much as it is socioeconomic. IF you are poor or are from a rural area, you are looked down upon the same as if you are a minority. If you are a minority, but are successful and educated, there is no racism. So don't confuse racism with socioeconomic discrimination. People used to look down on me because I was from Indiana, and not your typical affluent Chicago suburb. If I was black I would think it was racism. I also have a black friend that I hang out with a lot and I've never seen anyone discriminate against him or him complain about racism on our nights out.

Oh, you have a black friend? You must be right, then. Thanks for setting everyone straight.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by tribecavsbrowns

For the sake of sociological observation I think "yuppie" is a more useful word than "professional."

You realize yuppie is an acronym for young urban professional, right? So apparently you're okay with the term "professional" as long as the old and rural ones are left out.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by Chicagoist123

Good point. Places like Bucktown, Ukranian Village, Logan Square, Avondale, Irving Park, Portage Park, Albany Park, North Park, Rogers Park, Uptown and Edgewater are all VERY integrated neighborhoods.

Chicago: 33% Black or African-American

Logan Square (including Bucktown): 5%
West Town (including Ukrainian Village): 7%
Avondale: 2%
Irving Park: 3%
Portage Park: 1%
Albany Park: 4%
North Park: 3%
Rogers Park: 26%
Uptown: 20%
Edgwater: 14%


Hey, look, 3 of your 11 examples kind of qualify if you remove the word "VERY." Well done.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by Chi-town Native

I've always found the latter pointless, as the term itself clearly came into common usage in urban areas, so that's redundant.

Perhaps ironically, until the fairly recent re-gentrification of urban areas, I generally associated the term "yuppie" with suburb-dwellers. Ysuppie just doesn't roll off the tongue as well, though.

[urza216]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

Chicago: 33% Black or African-American

Logan Square (including Bucktown): 5%
West Town (including Ukrainian Village): 7%
Avondale: 2%
Irving Park: 3%
Portage Park: 1%
Albany Park: 4%
North Park: 3%
Rogers Park: 26%
Uptown: 20%
Edgwater: 14%


Hey, look, 3 of your 11 examples kind of qualify if you remove the word "VERY." Well done.

A number of those neighborhoods are integrated with whites and Mexicans.. Fail. Chicago is also close to 1/3rd Hispanic and those neighborhoods ARE integrated.

Wait a second. YOU live in Pilsen, an integrated neighborhood..

[urza216]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

Perhaps ironically, until the fairly recent re-gentrification of urban areas, I generally associated the term "yuppie" with suburb-dwellers. Ysuppie just doesn't roll off the tongue as well, though.

A yuppie is a young professional not an upper middle class family man. And they actually do dwell in the suburbs sometimes - crushed with student loan debt and living with their parents.

Some people stay in the burbs where it's homely. Some work in the burbs. But otherwise, culturally speaking, it doesn't really make much sense why a young professional would prefer the burbs. Would you care to elaborate?

[urza216]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

Oh, you have a black friend? You must be right, then. Thanks for setting everyone straight.

lol, yeah, that guy sounded kinda stupid to me too. I doubt he's that close to this one black friend.

[mjtinmemphis]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

Chicago: 33% Black or African-American

Logan Square (including Bucktown): 5%
West Town (including Ukrainian Village): 7%
Avondale: 2%
Irving Park: 3%
Portage Park: 1%
Albany Park: 4%
North Park: 3%
Rogers Park: 26%
Uptown: 20%
Edgwater: 14%


Hey, look, 3 of your 11 examples kind of qualify if you remove the word "VERY." Well done.

What other areas on the North side has over 10% Black besides Edgewater, Rogers Park and Uptown? Please tell me there is more.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by urza216

A number of those neighborhoods are integrated with whites and Mexicans.

Whites and Latinos (which is what I think you really mean), have long been fairly integrated. That's never been much of an issue. When people talk about racial segregation in Chicago or in the U.S. in general they're talking about whites and blacks.

You knew that, though, didn't you? Fail indeed.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by urza216

A yuppie is a young professional not an upper middle class family man.

It was originally applied to the Baby Boomer generation, who were young when the term came about in the 80's, and it has stuck with them as they've aged. They didn't cease being called "yuppies" when they had families, at least not in the way I've heard the term used. Also, the meaning of the word "professional" used to more-or-less mean upper middle class. It wasn't used to describe anyone who went to college and aspired to earn more than the minimum wage, as it seems to be now.