NRA today (Chicago, Wyoming: crime, statistics, eat)

[Manigault]

Originally Posted by chitownperson

Right, and I wouldn't consider those people responsible, because they care more about money at the expense of society (every purchase they make funds gun makers, dealers and the NRA). And it they sell it on at a large profit in the future to some criminal, then we have one more criminal on the street with an assault riffle.

Don't forget that they lose these firearms in home burglaries and the firearms get misused by kids in their homes. The NRA won't mention that.

[chitownperson]

Originally Posted by Manigault

Don't forget that they lose these firearms in home burglaries and the firearms get misused by kids in their homes. The NRA won't mention that.

Yes, yes and absolutely.

[Chicago South Sider]

Originally Posted by chitownperson

Right, and I wouldn't consider those people responsible, because they care more about money at the expense of society (every purchase they make funds gun makers, dealers and the NRA).

You could say the same thing about a lot of people, including myself. The vast majority of people care more about money than anything else. If they didn't, this would be a whole 'nother world.

[chitownperson]

Originally Posted by Chicago South Sider

You could say the same thing about a lot of people, including myself. The vast majority of people care more about money than anything else. If they didn't, this would be a whole 'nother world.

There is a difference between people caring more about money when guns are involved, and say people caring more about making money at the expense of happiness, because guns end up killing a lot of people... So no, it's not always the same thing, because "anything else" can mean a lot of different things with drastically different consequences.

If people cared less about the money that is made from guns, and more about the safety of society, then this WOULD be another world... A world with less gun related deaths.

[Chicago South Sider]

Originally Posted by chitownperson

There is a difference between people caring more about money when guns are involved, and say people caring more about making money at the expense of happiness, because guns end up killing a lot of people... So no, it's not always the same thing, because "anything else" can mean a lot of different things with drastically different consequences.

If people cared less about the money that is made from guns, and more about the safety of society, then this WOULD be another world... A world with less gun related deaths.

Money is money, whether it comes from guns or somewhere else. That isn't going to change.

[Happy in Wyoming]

If guns increase murder and strong gun laws reduce it how come the entire state of Wyoming has had between 8 and 18 murders per year for the past ten years. Chicago has more than six times our population so since they have strict guns laws as opposed to our very relaxed laws why do they have five hundred murders? If they had our murder rate they'd never have more than one hundred per year, often far fewer.

Nothing is banned or restricted in Wyoming and parents determine at what age their children should have guns. We don't need permits to buy, possess, or carry open, concealed, or in vehicles.

[Chicago South Sider]

Originally Posted by Happy in Wyoming

If guns increase murder and strong gun laws reduce it how come the entire state of Wyoming has had between 8 and 18 murders per year for the past ten years. Chicago has more than six times our population so since they have strict guns laws as opposed to our very relaxed laws why do they have five hundred murders? If they had our murder rate they'd never have more than one hundred per year, often far fewer.

Nothing is banned or restricted in Wyoming and parents determine at what age their children should have guns. We don't need permits to buy, possess, or carry open, concealed, or in vehicles.

How many Gangster Disciples, Latin Kings or Vice Lords live in Wyoming? The anti-gun laws in Chicago don't mean squat to gangbangers.

[Happy in Wyoming]

Originally Posted by Chicago South Sider

How many Gangster Disciples, Latin Kings or Vice Lords live in Wyoming? The anti-gun laws in Chicago don't mean squat to gangbangers.

You just said it. Gun laws don't reduce crime. They only infringe the rights of good people.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by Chicago South Sider

How many Gangster Disciples, Latin Kings or Vice Lords live in Wyoming? The anti-gun laws in Chicago don't mean squat to gangbangers.

Exactly, gun laws whether for or against will have 0 consequence to homicide in Chicago.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by Happy in Wyoming

Gun laws don't reduce crime.

Except when they do:

Tough gun control laws linked to lower death rates - latimes.com