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Old 01-05-2013, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Yea, like this thread.
It's just that you're the 500th person to make that "argument" here, and the fallacy of it has been pointed out 499 times. Please read before think you have some profound, original, or even relevant thought to add.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:48 PM
 
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The UK put a gun ban into effect after the Dunblane school massacre in Scotland, and gun crime has seen a significant drop since the ban, plus there has not been a school shooting to date post ban. So, gun bans DO reduce gun deaths and gun crimes.


Then why do British police now carry guns?
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:49 PM
 
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You people crack me up.....Chicago is the murder capitol of the USA....with the toughest gunlaws on the planet.Du-h-h-h-h......What does that tell you?

Same with Washington, DC !
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:57 PM
 
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Then why do British police now carry guns?
They don't in general..

BBC News - Why British police don?t have guns

19 September 2012

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The deaths of two female police constables have brought into focus the unarmed status of most British police. Why does Britain hold firm against issuing guns to officers on the beat?
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Each police force has its own firearms unit. Police armed response vehicles have been deployed since 1991.
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:27 PM
 
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Then why do British police now carry guns?
Actually, the typical beat cop does not carry a gun. It's mostly the police at airports, and special units etc... It's is, and has been part of British policing culture to not carry guns on the street, and the majority of police voted for keeping it that way... I'd think that if the typical policeman or woman in Britain was overly concerned with masses of heavily armed criminals out there, they'd want to be all armed too, which they are not.
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:29 PM
 
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Gun ownership in Britain was more widespread 50 years ago vs. today. So why the need to add firearms police units if gun crime is going down?
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:36 PM
 
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Gun ownership in Britain was more widespread 50 years ago vs. today. So why the need to add firearms police units if gun crime is going down?
For the odd incidents where they might come across armed criminals, which has greatly dropped since the ban. Yet another example of how the ban has worked.
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:40 PM
 
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For the odd incidents where they might come across armed criminals,

Say it ain't so. Criminals not obeying Britain's tough gun laws?

It sounds like Britain had gun problems before the ban, with all those guns in circulation in the UK.
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Old 01-06-2013, 12:00 AM
 
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Say it ain't so. Criminals not obeying Britain's tough gun laws?

It sounds like Britain had gun problems before the ban, with all those guns in circulation in the UK.
Obviously criminals won't obey laws , but you're missing the point, that the clamp down on gun ownership with the continued confiscation of fire arms has been successful in greatly reducing gun crimes.

Britain had a significantly larger gun problem pre-ban, hence the reason for the ban. The gun problem has been greatly reduced post-ban. Criminals previous to the ban got a lot of their guns from legal gun owners, and now they cant do that, so now they have a lot less armed criminals. It's really not that hard to understand.
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Old 01-06-2013, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Mequon, WI
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Sandy Hook Students Head to "Safest School in America" | NBC Chicago

Don't worry more guns at schools is actually a bad idea but wait? why is everyone calling the safest school in America Sandy Hook? armed guards. Why do you thing there is armed guards at the mall, airport, and baseball and football games? the proposal of armed guards is is Clinton Idea and was rejected back then and probably will be rejected again. Nothing like partisan politics in Washington and in our own backyard where people will argue any point that backs up their argument. For once I would love to hear a liberal say "you know I used to think that but now I don't", it won't happen. There have been many liberals that have converted to being a conservative but conservative to a liberal just doesn't happen for obvious reasons.
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