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Old 01-03-2013, 10:13 PM
 
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^^^

Drugs.
Agreed; with a few other social factors as well. "Drugs" being right up there.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Hmm...why the explosion of violence in the U.S. since the 1960s in general and minority communities in particular?
The breakdown of the family unit within the black community has played a major part of the explosion of violence.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Hmm...why the explosion of violence in the U.S. since the 1960s in general and minority communities in particular?
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:32 PM
 
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Don't understand your response.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:55 AM
 
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groups in power tend to not voluntarily give up their privilege.
So, if you know this, why do you keep expecting them to?

Instead of waiting on "the man", or Jesus (you know, the same Jesus who witnessed thousands of Africans being tossed into the Atlantic ocean), blacks need to take matters into their own hands. Once others see blacks making their own progress, they'll have no choice but to join in and help. But, today, all we see are a bunch of angry, divided, finger pointin' brothas, who actually think the same race who discriminates against them, should be to the first to offer them help. :shakes head:

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results ~ Albert Einstein

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How much thought went into coming up with that brilliantly original metaphor? I bet your teachers are proud.
Brilliantly original metaphor? Obviously, my teachers couldn't hold a candle, to yours. :chuckles:
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:58 AM
 
Location: River North, Chicago, Illinois
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Agreed; with a few other social factors as well. "Drugs" being right up there.
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The breakdown of the family unit within the black community has played a major part of the explosion of violence.
We can blame crime on both of those, but the reality is probably that all three (violent crime, drugs and family breakdown) can really be traced to the prevalence of lead in the environment. That links goes to one recent article, but the link between crime and lead has been postulated and then documented for decades now, every decade the link being shown to be stronger and stronger. Cities, including Chicago, have been anti-lead for a long time, but Chicago is actually not anywhere near a leader in lead mitigation. If you want to make a long-term contribution to stabilizing minority families, making inner-city neighborhoods more appealing to the middle class, reducing violent crime and drug abuse, then call Rahm now and tell him that making lead mitigation a key plank in his platform is critical to the health of Chicago as a city. Then vote accordingly.
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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So, if you know this, why do you keep expecting them to?
Where did I say I was expecting them to?

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Brilliantly original metaphor?
That was sarcasm. It was actually a hacky clichéd offensive pile of **** that you'd have been much better off not using if you were hoping to be taken seriously.
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Don't understand your response.
I'm not surprised.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:20 AM
 
Location: South Chicagoland
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I doubt it.

Unless you are proposing a dramatically higher concentration of lead poisoning in, say, Austin or Englewood or in Humboldt Park--which happens to coincide perfectly with the drug trade!--than in, say, Bronzeville.
Still a more likely explanation than the decline of churches.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:25 AM
 
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Still a more likely explanation than the decline of churches.
Only if taken completely out of context.

And, as I wrote earlier, I am only going by what people have expressed to me. People who lived it.

For better or worse I didn't have the experience of growing up in an inner city black neighborhood in the 60s.
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