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Old 01-27-2013, 05:18 PM
 
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Fair question. Here's the Midwest as I'd define it:

GREAT LAKES
Ohio
Michigan
Indiana
Illinois
Wisconsin
Minnesota

GREAT PLAINES
North Dakota
South Dakota
Iowa
Nebraska
Missouri
Kansas
Yep, that would be the standard definition. Missouri is somewhat of an anomaly in that it was a part of the Confederacy, but because it's wedged right between the very Midwestern states of Kansas and Illinois it's usually considered Midwest and not South.

Western PA and even far Western NY are part of the Great Lakes area and therefore very Midwestern culturally and geographically, but since we tend to draw regional lines at state lines, they get lumped in with the East Coast portions of their states.

Similarly, much of OK and TX are generally considered part of the Great Plains, but are most frequently not considered part of the Midwest. The plains even extend well into MT, WY, CO, and NM, but nobody considers them part of the Midwest since the Rocky Mountains start part way across those states.

Conversely, Southern portions of OH, IN, IL are fairly Southern in culture, but are considered part of the Midwest.

I've heard a few people claim Kentucky as part of the Midwest, but that makes zero sense to me.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:32 PM
 
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Yep, that would be the standard definition. Missouri is somewhat of an anomaly in that it was a part of the Confederacy, but because it's wedged right between the very Midwestern states of Kansas and Illinois it's usually considered Midwest and not South.

Western PA and even far Western NY are part of the Great Lakes area and therefore very Midwestern culturally and geographically, but since we tend to draw regional lines at state lines, they get lumped in with the East Coast portions of their states.

Similarly, much of OK and TX are generally considered part of the Great Plains, but are most frequently not considered part of the Midwest. The plains even extend well into MT, WY, CO, and NM, but nobody considers them part of the Midwest since the Rocky Mountains start part way across those states.

Conversely, Southern portions of OH, IN, IL are fairly Southern in culture, but are considered part of the Midwest.

I've heard a few people claim Kentucky as part of the Midwest, but that makes zero sense to me.
Missouri was never apart of the confederacy. It was always a part of the union and same with kentucky. Kentucky's Louisville is fairly midwestern with a southern charm but it feels very midwestern. Also Kansas is not very midwestern or southern. Its very much like wyoming and montana in being a great plain state.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:35 PM
 
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Conversely, Southern portions of OH, IN, IL are fairly Southern in culture, but are considered part of the Midwest.

I've heard a few people claim Kentucky as part of the Midwest, but that makes zero sense to me.
Louisville has an industrial vibe. I guess that is where Kentucky thing comes from.
Ohio can get very conservative outside of Cincinnati.
Indiana has always felt kind of southern outside of suburban Chicago.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:42 PM
 
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Missouri was never apart of the confederacy. It was always a part of the union and same with kentucky. Kentucky's Louisville is fairly midwestern with a southern charm but it feels very midwestern. Also Kansas is not very midwestern or southern. Its very much like wyoming and montana in being a great plain state.
Missouri was not part of the Confederacy but it and Kentucky had stars on the Confederate flag to represent separatist state governments. St. Louis and Kansas City are definitely Midwestern cities but I'd consider the Ozarks and the Bootheel to be more Southern.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:30 PM
 
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Missouri is somewhat of an anomaly in that it was a part of the Confederacy
No it wasn't.

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but because it's wedged right between the very Midwestern states of Kansas and Illinois it's usually considered Midwest and not South.
I'd also say any state that borders Iowa is more properly considered Midwest than Southern.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:35 PM
 
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I'd also say any state that borders Iowa is more properly considered Midwest than Southern.
By that logic, couldn't one just as easily argue that any state that borders Arkansas and Tennessee (not to mention being a former slave state) has got to be considered more Southern than Midwestern?
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:36 PM
 
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By that logic, couldn't one just as easily argue that any state that borders Arkansas and Tennessee has got to be considered more Southern than Midwestern?
No.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:41 PM
 
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Indy
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:41 PM
 
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Louisville has an industrial vibe. I guess that is where Kentucky thing comes from.
Ohio can get very conservative outside of Cincinnati.
Indiana has always felt kind of southern outside of suburban Chicago.
Agree
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:48 PM
 
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No.
You're clearly wrong.
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